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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 29, 2022 at 4:56 pm
Good thing they will get nothing
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 29, 2022 at 5:10 pm
(December 29, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Reliance on force is generally driven by the desires of elites to attain short-term gains. They want the goodies while they're alive to enjoy them.
The goodies in Ukraine are washing machines, apparently.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 29, 2022 at 5:44 pm
(December 29, 2022 at 5:10 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (December 29, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Reliance on force is generally driven by the desires of elites to attain short-term gains. They want the goodies while they're alive to enjoy them.
The goodies in Ukraine are washing machines, apparently.
And farm equipment.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 5:38 am
The number of Russian war crimes under investigation is 58,000. The number of proved Russian war crimes is 600. There are many voice who are saying that Putin and his entourage must be put on trial for all of these crimes. And there are many Ukrainians who believe this is possible. Besides, if there is a peace treaty with Russia, There must be reparations to Ukraine and I personally think the Russian Military Arsenal must be a part of that deal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/evidence-russ...07002.html
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 5:42 am
(December 31, 2022 at 5:38 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: The number of Russian war crimes under investigation is 58,000. The number of proved Russian war crimes is 600. There are many voice who are saying that Putin and his entourage must be put on trial for all of these crimes. And there are many Ukrainians who believe this is possible. Besides, if there is a peace treaty with Russia, There must be reparations to Ukraine and I personally think the Russian Military Arsenal must be a part of that deal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/evidence-russ...07002.html Unfortunately, none of that is going to happen.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 9:30 pm
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 9:46 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 9:30 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: ![[Image: b00ea0a4b938130e.png]](https://badinage1.files.wordpress.com/2023/01/b00ea0a4b938130e.png)
Ukraine has lost the political parties that opposed Zelensky, because he shut them down. It has lost the freedom to criticize Zelensky in the media. It has lost the ability to gather in Ukrainian Orthodox Churches to practice freedom of religion.
All these things were TAKEN away by Zelensky.
Moreover, it has been announced recently that one of the world's biggest and most predatory "asset management funds" will be loaning the money to "rebuild" Ukraine. This is in addition to the billions in loans from the IMF.
When a country becomes in debt to these institutions, the institutions take away the country's right to enact protective labor laws, to keep public goods public, to control their own economies and make sure that the people who live on top of the resources get the benefits of the resources.
So much has been taken away from Ukraine by the current Ukrainian government and its international "supporters" that it isn't really any longer a sovereign nation. That's "winning," I guess.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 9:53 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 9:46 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Ukraine has lost the political parties that opposed Zelensky, because he shut them down. It has lost the freedom to criticize Zelensky in the media. It has lost the ability to gather in Ukrainian Orthodox Churches to practice freedom of religion. That frequently happens in wartime. Even the United States turned into a military dictatorship during the Big One. And everyone was on board. Time for democracy later when people aren't getting blown up while they sleep.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 9:53 pm
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Quote:Ukraine has lost the political parties that opposed Zelensky, because he shut them down. It has lost the freedom to criticize Zelensky in the media. It has lost the ability to gather in Ukrainian Orthodox Churches to practice freedom of religion.
Most opposition parties were Russian puppets and no Ukrainian Orthodox Churches can freely practice religion what they can't do is spread, Russian propaganda and try and undermine the government. That has nothing to do with freedom of religion.
Quote:All these things were TAKEN away by Zelensky.
The ability to promote Russian disinformation was the only thing" taken away"
Quote:Moreover, it has been announced recently that one of the world's biggest and most predatory "asset management funds" will be loaning the money to "rebuild" Ukraine. This is in addition to the billions in loans from the IMF.
It's not predatory in the slightest and is needed to fix all the damage Russia has done.
Quote:When a country becomes in debt to these institutions, the institutions take away the country's right to enact protective labor laws, to keep public goods public, to control their own economies and make sure that the people who live on top of the resources get the benefits of the resources.
Lol, none of that's going to happen. Stop making shit up.
Quote:So much has been taken away from Ukraine by the current Ukrainian government and its international "supporters" that it isn't really any longer a sovereign nation. That's "winning," I guess.
Nothing has been taken away and Ukraine is a sovereign nation and is better off now than being conquered by Russia.
Keep trying to twist reality to suit your narrative and we will simply keep laughing at you.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 31, 2022 at 10:06 pm
There isn't a Pro Russia talking point Bel won't mindlessly repeat.... 
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