Russia and Ukraine

[Thumpalumpacus]

Putin opponent falls out the window, as usual.   The only difference is this window was at 30,000 feet.

No sign he actually fell out of the window.   He was probably still inside the cabin as defined by where the windows ended up after the fire went out.

Either way, hitting the ground is what killed him.

[Anomalocaris]

Good chance he was dead before he hit the ground.  Decent chance he was dead even before he boarded the plane.    The plane may well have merely been recruited to help flesh out a story of how he died, and it may well not have been how he really died.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Good chance he was dead before he hit the ground.  Decent chance he was dead even before he boarded the plane.    The plane may well have merely been recruited to help flesh out a story of how he died, and it may well not have been how he really died.

I've yet to see confirmation that he was aboard the plane.

[HappySkeptic]

I don't understand why Prigozhin didn't create himself some protection.

Sure, he can't go after Putin himself, but what if he set up funds for assassins to kill Putin if Prigozhin ever dies under suspicious circumstances? If he says "I leave my fortune to whatever SUMBiCH (or their next-of-kin) that takes out Putin, and provides a guaranteed way of payment, I would expect Putin would think twice.

[Anomalocaris]

Good chance he was dead before he hit the ground.  Decent chance he was dead even before he boarded the plane.    The plane may well have merely been recruited to help flesh out a story of how he died, and it may well not have been how he really died.

I've yet to see confirmation that he was aboard the plane.

If he wasn’t aboard the plane, then a staged crash to explain his death would be more conveniently staged farther from Moscow where scrutiny would be less.

The fact that the crash occurred near Moscow suggest that’s where in Russia Prigozhin could be lured to be assassinated and the plane crash either was the site of assassination or was close to where the assassination occurred.

[Anomalocaris]

I don't understand why Prigozhin didn't create himself some protection.

Sure, he can't go after Putin himself, but what if he set up funds for assassins to kill Putin if Prigozhin ever dies under suspicious circumstances?  If he says "I leave my fortune to whatever SUMBiCH (or their next-of-kin) that takes out Putin, and provides a guaranteed way of payment, I would expect Putin would think twice.

Prigozhin betrays himself to be an amateurish operator with both his clumsy, Brutish and ineffectual coup attempt, and his being so easily assassinated afterwards in retribution.    He was a thug, not a Machiavelli.    Putin is the opposite.

So which skillful operator would believe that a thuggish amateur like Progizhin can set up a fund for assassinating the Machiavelli like Putin without the KGB knowing, So anyone with tries to claim the reward would likely meet with instant death?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Boru

[The Valkyrie]

Boru

If it had been Comrade Putin he would have fallen out plane window and plane would have landed on him.

How big are YOUR windows, comrade?

[Nanny]

My guess is that those on the plane were there bodily only. Scary to think who the other bodies on the plane could be. Hope it's not his family.

This would allow some face saving. Yes, there was a passionate disagreement, but he is a Soldier of Russia and he died with Honor!

[Thumpalumpacus]

If he wasn’t aboard the plane, then a staged crash to explain his death would be more conveniently staged farther from Moscow where scrutiny would be less.

The fact that the crash occurred near Moscow suggest that’s where in Russia Prigozhin could be lured to be assassinated and the plane crash either was the site of assassination or was close to where the assassination occurred.

Prig was reportedly at a meeting at the Russian MoD. As for proximity to Moscow a giveaway to Putin's hand in the matter, I don't think it matters where that plane went down. !) The government controls the media, and 2) the government controls access to the crash site. That means that they can essentially "control" the media narrative.

Further, after the march on Moscow, I doubt there's any Russian adult ho wouldn't suspect Putin's hand in this, no matter where that plane went down.

Neither you nor I know the truth just yet. I'm sure not going argue about hypotheticals on this. Feel free to fap away, though. Just keep me out of it.

He was a thug, not a Machiavelli.    Putin is the opposite.

lol, this Prince stepped in it 18 months ago and still cannot scrape any of the shit off'n his boots. Some genius!