[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children

[LadyForCamus]

Meh. Life’s inherently meaningless and unfair anyway, right? Quit whining.

[The Grand Nudger]

You misunderstand how we use and abuse trolls for fun around here.

Sounds like something a good person would do, right? You are so full of shit.

Good god, what gave you the impression I was a good person?  Whether or not I'm a good person is immaterial to whether or not you can show the work for the things you claim to know.  Whether or not you can demonstrate that some statement you've called logically and morally correct..is, in fact..either of those things.

[Ahriman]

Sounds like something a good person would do, right? You are so full of shit.

Good god, what gave you the impression I was a good person?  Whether or not I'm a good person is immaterial to whether or not you can show the work for the things you claim to know.  Whether or not you can demonstrate that some statement you've called logically and morally correct..is, in fact..either of those things.

Fuck what's logically or morally correct. You're just a bad person, and if you didn't want me to think you were a good person, you wouldn't have been going on and on about the sacrifices you've made for your children, and how you're such a hard worker, etc. You're so weak-minded that you can't even recognize your own moral grandstanding for what it is.

[The Grand Nudger]

Bad people can do good things. Another strike against any people are shitty, therefore anti natalism! argument.

[Ahriman]

Bad people can do good things.  Another strike against any people are shitty, therefore anti natalism! argument.

Right, that's true. Just as good people can do bad things. But you WERE trying to make me think you're a good person. It's obvious.

[Aegon]

Is it really worth rolling the dice, (by having children)? Every new person brought into this world is a person who might end up hating his/her life. Is it really worth the risk?

social programs/advocacy/charity/volunteering are not fundamental solutions.

This question has been pondered on for a millennia. Just read up, man. There's a whole fucking religion dedicated to figuring out what suffering is and how to escape it. Check it out, may be a good fit for you.

[The Grand Nudger]

I’m completely ambivalent about whether you think I’m a good person or not. You can read any of my comments as the worlds literal worst person somehow stumbling into decent outcomes. The worse you think of me, the worse for your arguments.

[Jehanne]

The use of the word "dissolution" with respect to "human existence" is profoundly disturbing, as it appears that you are referring to the collective existence of Humanity as opposed to an individual human being.

Well yeah, that's what I mean. What would the "dissolution" of one person accomplish?

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There is really no doubt that my pathological irresponsibility makes me believe these things, but at the same time, it's not like anything I'm saying is untrue. It's pretty much all true.

You're mentally ill; I just hope that you are not dangerous, also.

[Ahriman]

Is it really worth rolling the dice, (by having children)? Every new person brought into this world is a person who might end up hating his/her life. Is it really worth the risk?

social programs/advocacy/charity/volunteering are not fundamental solutions.

This question has been pondered on for a millennia. Just read up, man. There's a whole fucking religion dedicated to figuring out what suffering is and how to escape it. Check it out, may be a good fit for you.

And yet suffering still exists. So obviously, that religion is not a good solution.

[Belacqua]

[...] I'm not allowed to do anything fun anymore. I can't drink, I can't smoke weed, I can't edge to porn for hours at a time, nothing. It's like God wants me to be bored and miserable.

I understand the appeal of those things. But they really aren't the only fun things in life. Finding pleasure in constructive pursuits is kind of what being mature means.

I think you're right to focus on pleasure, but the trick is aiming it the right way.