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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 2:30 pm
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(April 17, 2022 at 1:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (April 17, 2022 at 12:59 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Perhaps?
Perhaps not?? Yeah who knows.
(April 17, 2022 at 1:47 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: (April 16, 2022 at 1:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Would you punish/torment religious people, if you could? How far does your disdain for religion go?
I would punish people for treason when their religious views lead them to attempts at overthrowing democracies. Namely, Dominionists and almost everyone Republican, Trumpists, and White Nationalists. Those groups usually intersect and are almost always one and the same. The penalty I would demand is life imprisonment and/or death. You don't coddle or tolerate that kind of human evil. Okay so now I have to ask, what makes those groups so evil? Beyond an obviously immature knee jerk reaction on your part.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm
(April 16, 2022 at 2:53 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Me.
I'd deport then, naked, en-masse, to Antarctica to scare the penguins.
Polluting the unspool continent in the worst possible way.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 3:54 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (April 16, 2022 at 2:53 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Me.
I'd deport then, naked, en-masse, to Antarctica to scare the penguins.
Polluting the unspool continent in the worst possible way.
Fish food.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 3:57 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 2:30 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (April 17, 2022 at 1:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps not?? Yeah who knows.
(April 17, 2022 at 1:47 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: I would punish people for treason when their religious views lead them to attempts at overthrowing democracies. Namely, Dominionists and almost everyone Republican, Trumpists, and White Nationalists. Those groups usually intersect and are almost always one and the same. The penalty I would demand is life imprisonment and/or death. You don't coddle or tolerate that kind of human evil. Okay so now I have to ask, what makes those groups so evil? Beyond an obviously immature knee jerk reaction on your part.
It is evil because these groups have used their faith in arrogant attempts to subvert democracy. It is all about power and control: they want power to dominate society and government to exert control over people's lives and exert undue influence in areas of individual rights where it is none of their business, all in the name of their god, Jesus, the Bible, and religious liberty. These groups claim it is their right to use their faith, their brand of religion, as a weapon against people whom they consider undesirables: liberals, LGBTQ+, freethinkers, atheists, intellectuals, scientists, and progressives. My reaction may have some emotion in it, but it is neither kneejerk nor immature. It is heartfelt and serious, as I take my and my fellow humans liberties and the U.S. Constitution and democratic principles seriously. I revere America's Founding Fathers' and their establishment of my country, the United States of America, human as they were, not being perfect, seriously. I also take threats against me and my people seriously. Certain Domininionists have made threats, both veiled and open, against liberals, atheists, and secularists in general. I have read their material and seen videos they posted. Anyone can search for examples if they so wish. But make no mistake Dominionist! I and my people did not start this culture war. I am willing to finish it, and I dare say I am not the only one who thinks or feels this way. I rather live in peace. So just speaking for myself: I am no pacifist, neither am I doormat. You Dominionists want to make me and my people enemies, then so be it. I am not above joining in a hot war against Dominionism, Conservatism, and Republicans.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 4:27 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 3:57 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: (April 17, 2022 at 2:30 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah who knows.
Okay so now I have to ask, what makes those groups so evil? Beyond an obviously immature knee jerk reaction on your part.
It is evil because these groups have used their faith in arrogant attempts to subvert democracy. It is all about power and control: they want power to dominate society and government to exert control over people's lives and exert undue influence in areas of individual rights where it is none of their business, all in the name of their god, Jesus, the Bible, and religious liberty. These groups claim it is their right to use their faith, their brand of religion, as a weapon against people whom they consider undesirables: liberals, LGBTQ+, freethinkers, atheists, intellectuals, scientists, and progressives. My reaction may have some emotion in it, but it is neither kneejerk nor immature. It is heartfelt and serious, as I take my and my fellow humans liberties and the U.S. Constitution and democratic principles seriously. I revere America's Founding Fathers' and their establishment of my country, the United States of America, human as they were, not being perfect, seriously. I also take threats against me and my people seriously. Certain Domininionists have made threats, both veiled and open, against liberals, atheists, and secularists in general. I have read their material and seen videos they posted. Anyone can search for examples if they so wish. But make no mistake Dominionist! I and my people did not start this culture war. I am willing to finish it, and I dare say I am not the only one who thinks or feels this way. I rather live in peace. So just speaking for myself: I am no pacifist, neither am I doormat. You Dominionists want to make me and my people enemies, then so be it. I am not above joining in a hot war against Dominionism, Conservatism, and Republicans. Yeah that's great. But the good guys only win in fiction.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 4:40 pm
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Stop feeding this entity with an obvious mental/personality disorder. You're not helping him, you're enabling him.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Noah Jacob Yeats,
b. February 26, 1994
(aged 7 at death)
John Samuel Yeats,
b. December 15, 1995
(aged 5 at death)
Paul Abraham Yeats,
b. September 13, 1997
(aged 3 at death)
Luke David Yeats,
b. February 15, 1999
(aged 2 at death)
Mary Deborah Yeats,
b. November 30, 2000
(aged 6 months at death)
All 5 children killed June 20, 2001, all murdered for religious reasons. And that is just a single case
Wanna ask them what choices they had? Well, you can't because they are dead.
And the mothers motive? She is going to hell, but her drowned kids get a free pass into heaven so she has done a good thing.
That is the kind of porridge religion intentionally turns peoples brain into.
Of course, Belacqua will rock back in and claim that is an outlier. Nope. We are only getting warmed up on the harm religion does to children.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 5:34 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 4:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah that's great. But the good guys only win in fiction.
Strange how you're always called a troll, yet you're the most sensible person in this conversation.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 7:10 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 5:34 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (April 17, 2022 at 4:27 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah that's great. But the good guys only win in fiction.
Strange how you're always called a troll, yet you're the most sensible person in this conversation.
That opinion right there speaks volumes.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 7:28 pm
(April 17, 2022 at 7:10 pm)polymath257 Wrote: (April 17, 2022 at 5:34 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Strange how you're always called a troll, yet you're the most sensible person in this conversation.
That opinion right there speaks volumes.
Yup. She's not advocating violence. She's tolerant of religious people with children. She recognizes the obvious fact that many people get pleasure from punishing others.
Not everyone can manage these very sensible positions.
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