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Job
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(May 4, 2022 at 4:36 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: For me personally I have always viewed suffering as a necessary thing that tests and proves our values and convictions.

So, by extenson, do you wish suffering on others in order to save their souls?
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(May 22, 2022 at 8:02 pm)CuriosityBob Wrote:
(May 4, 2022 at 4:36 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: For me personally I have always viewed suffering as a necessary thing that tests and proves our values and convictions.

So, by extenson, do you wish suffering on others in order to save their souls?

No, if anything I would want to be a friend to those who are suffering. Perhaps even surpassing Job's friends in this regard as I wouldn't be there to judge them and assert that their suffering must be divine punishment.
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I think that anyone willing to posit a soul forge should at least be willing to do that forging themselves. Otherwise, it shows a genuine lack of genuine faith.

If cancer exists, for example.. to make us better and test us. If this seems like a suitable explanation, then a person ought to be willing to literally give someone cancer.

We know better, as people, ofc. Which is why the soul forge tends to come off like mealy mouthed bullshit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(May 27, 2022 at 6:28 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that anyone willing to posit a soul forge should at least be willing to do that forging themselves.  Otherwise, it shows a genuine lack of genuine faith.

If cancer exists, for example.. to make us better and test us.  If this seems like a suitable explanation, then a person ought to be willing to literally give someone cancer.

We know better, as people, ofc.  Which is why the soul forge tends to come off like mealy mouthed bullshit.

I asked you this question for a reason, what Gym do you train at?
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Do you even lift, bro? I already answered, because the soul forge giving us cancer to test and prove us might be a bit different than deciding you want tight abs.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Why the hell is this thread even still active.

Wait, I think I know, I haven't suffered enough yet.

KMN!
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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(May 27, 2022 at 6:28 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that anyone willing to posit a soul forge should at least be willing to do that forging themselves.  Otherwise, it shows a genuine lack of genuine faith.

If cancer exists, for example.. to make us better and test us.  If this seems like a suitable explanation, then a person ought to be willing to literally give someone cancer.

We know better, as people, ofc.  Which is why the soul forge tends to come off like mealy mouthed bullshit.

How do vaccines work?
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(June 3, 2022 at 10:06 am)h311inac311 Wrote:
(May 27, 2022 at 6:28 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that anyone willing to posit a soul forge should at least be willing to do that forging themselves.  Otherwise, it shows a genuine lack of genuine faith.

If cancer exists, for example.. to make us better and test us.  If this seems like a suitable explanation, then a person ought to be willing to literally give someone cancer.

We know better, as people, ofc.  Which is why the soul forge tends to come off like mealy mouthed bullshit.

How do vaccines work?

Look it up - it's so simple that you should be able to find the answer out there in the big, wild Intertubz.
What fresh hell can this be? - Dorothy Parker
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(June 3, 2022 at 10:06 am)h311inac311 Wrote:
(May 27, 2022 at 6:28 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that anyone willing to posit a soul forge should at least be willing to do that forging themselves.  Otherwise, it shows a genuine lack of genuine faith.

If cancer exists, for example.. to make us better and test us.  If this seems like a suitable explanation, then a person ought to be willing to literally give someone cancer.

We know better, as people, ofc.  Which is why the soul forge tends to come off like mealy mouthed bullshit.

How do vaccines work?

First, a satan worshiping doctor gets a needle, He then goes into a backroom where possessed babies are kept. He draws blood from said baby before killing it to appease Baphomet and to ensure the growth of Hells army.

He returns and injects you with the demon baby blood rife with sin, debauchery and evil works its way through your bloodstream. It overtakes your pure Christian blood cells in a miniature reenactment of the end of times. Eventually, the demon blood wins and creates 10 millimeter-sized clones of Astaroth. In turn, they cast an Eldritch barrier preventing covid from entering your body.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

   
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