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Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 6, 2022 at 8:50 pm)brewer Wrote: I predict a self flagellation circle. (can two people make a circle?)

The power of christ compels them!!!!!

Magic book says two is all you need.
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#22
RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
Don't swim in shark infested waters.
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#23
RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
After reading 2+ pages of this discussion, I have a strong suspicion that we are being pranked.  Read
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 7, 2022 at 6:59 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: After reading 2+ pages of this discussion, I have a strong suspicion that we are being pranked.  Read

I have theorized that was the original intention of religion was simply a prank. It just got out of hand.

"I didn't think the simple fucks would actually BELIEVE me"......
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 7, 2022 at 8:09 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(May 7, 2022 at 6:59 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: After reading 2+ pages of this discussion, I have a strong suspicion that we are being pranked.  Read

I have theorized that was the original intention of religion was simply a prank. It just got out of hand.

"I didn't think the simple fucks would actually BELIEVE me"......

It wasn't a prank. It was a method of gaining control and power thru manipulation, mostly via fear.
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 7, 2022 at 8:56 am)brewer Wrote:
(May 7, 2022 at 8:09 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I have theorized that was the original intention of religion was simply a prank. It just got out of hand.

"I didn't think the simple fucks would actually BELIEVE me"......

It wasn't a prank. It was a method of gaining control and power thru manipulation, mostly via fear.

I don' t think so.... Creativity isn' t the forte of evil, manipulative bastards. It seems more likely a hostile takeover of the prankster's idea of a joke....
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 6, 2022 at 7:21 am)Ad Astra Wrote: God has been nitpicking at all my flaws, however insignificant. If I were to do something completely harmless such as have a glass of wine, God tells me I committed an atrocious sin. Then he makes me suffer for it greatly; that suffering being a result of his will, not natural circumstances. In other words, God likes to punish me for enjoying a glass of wine.

No, you are the one nitpicking at all your flaws. You are the one feeling guilt over natural behaviour. You think, it is god, doing it, because you want to believe in god. And shit happens to everyone. It's not god making it happen for having a glass of wine.

I don't believe since I was very young and I'm not subject to any kind of divine punishment. Yes, bad things have happened in my life, but also good things.
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 6, 2022 at 7:21 am)Ad Astra Wrote: I can’t get any help from other Christians on religious message boards. After they read about my problems, they claim my faith isn’t genuine.

And that wouldn't be very surprising, would it? you don't sound very respectful to God's name or to any command in your bible? 

and coming to atheists for religious advice? ROFL.

(May 6, 2022 at 7:21 am)Ad Astra Wrote: If I were to do something completely harmless such as have a glass of wine, God tells me I committed an atrocious sin. Then he makes me suffer for it greatly; that suffering being a result of his will, not natural circumstances. In other words, God likes to punish me for enjoying a glass of wine.

That's a very twisted way of understanding sins. Of all the tasty liquids you could've taken, you chosen specifically wine (or any alcoholic beverage) that is not allowed in your religion. It's precisely because you can't avoid a trivially dispensable pleasure like drinking wine that makes your sin stupid and unnecessary.

Maybe there is peer pressure in the western world to consume alcohol. I moved to France since last year and I can understand what it's like.. but why should I care what anybody else drinks; it's the western world's fault after all, not your religion's. That's how you should look at it.. if your faith really were genuine, that is.

(May 6, 2022 at 7:21 am)Ad Astra Wrote:  I asked God what the hell is so wrong with having a sip of wine. His response is always the same: He believe that because a very small percentage of people drink irresponsibly and kill others in car accidents that, therefore, no one can ever be allowed to consume alcohol.

I am sure your bible doesn't talk about car accidents, so I don't know what you're babbling about here. Things can be illicit in scripture for no material reason. It's kind of the religious challenge of whether you'll give up something because God told you so , or only if it's harmful...?

another example to think about : Islam forbids to wear anything made of silk, despite there being no harm in doing so. This is just to show you what being religious means in principle, even if you're not a Muslim

(May 6, 2022 at 7:21 am)Ad Astra Wrote: I pointed out this analogy to God. No matter how much sense I make, no matter how fair or well-reasoned my argument is, he doesn’t care. He won’t change his view and tells me I have to suffer by never drinking alcohol ever again!

You don't point out anything to God, idiot. He points out things to you. And unless you have access to all facts in existence, which you don't, you can't pretend to have a well-reasoned argument against an all-knowing deity.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
Klorophyll, does your religion permit you to be dis-respectful towards the people of the book?
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RE: Seeking meaningful advice from atheists
(May 7, 2022 at 12:50 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: Klorophyll, does your religion permit you to be dis-respectful towards the people of the book?

Short answer: yes, it does.

Long answer: Kloro is a Muslim. ‘Disrespect’ is the best you can hope for.

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‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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