RE: A Serious Thread. Seriously?
May 9, 2022 at 7:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2022 at 7:55 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(May 9, 2022 at 2:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Isn' t putting a " serious" tag on bible discussion a bit like sticking one on a comic book thread and expecting serious discussion about " could Batman really kick Superman's ass?"......
A serious tag doesn't mean you need to take the subject matter seriously. It just means (in that one thread) you can't just throw around insults and mock the person for having the idea.
You can mock the idea. So long as you're saying something observant about the idea (like, as if you gave the idea some thought). The only thing you can't do is say something like: "The Bible is stupid, you dumbass piece of shit." I mean, as excellent and thought-provoking as such a sentiment is, you can't say it in a [serious] thread. I was a huge supporter of the [serious] thread idea when it was proposed, because "fuck off dumbass," was a typical response to a theist saying their piece, and I found it moronic. Especially, when I felt there was a genuine logical response that would put the theist's argument to shame better, but all we got were ten insults like that... we got "fuck off" on page one and two. And then "reasonable argument x" on page three. Who is satisfied with that level of discourse?
I've never started a serious thread, and I probably never will. Just like I've never felt very comfortable in a college "safe space" because, at the outset, once something is established as a safe space, it would appear that certain types of discourse are forbidden there, solely according to others' sensibilities and capacity to be insulted, rather than the truth value of what is said. But I know why safe spaces exist. It's because, many places is the world can be "hostile spaces." (Some might even say "stupid spaces"). The fundamental idea behind saying "this is a safe space" is saying "this will not be a hostile space." As comfortable as I am in "hostile spaces," I'm fine with someone standing up and saying "this one room will not be a hostile space." If you aren't okay with people feeling safe in one room out of the whole world, you're a fascist. Period.
If I want to say something brash, or if I want to make some crude joke, or throw out some insult, I have the whole rest of the forum to do it in. If someone wants to set a perimeter where crude insults won't transpire, you should be cool with that. I can understand wanting to express yourself freely and call bullshit where you see it. I don't think that's fascist or anything. What I think is fascist is needing to invade every single space and say "Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Fuck you!"
You gotta be cool with saying that stuff in "only" 99% of the world (or forum). And letting the rest of it go.
