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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 6:36 am
(April 3, 2011 at 4:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (April 2, 2011 at 6:33 pm)chatpilot Wrote: I didn't even know they had a creation science museum in the UK much less in other parts of the world. I only knew of that one in Kentucky.
Ours is truly shite. They have a t rex that looks like it was made by school children out of papier mache.
http://www.genesisexpo.co.uk/
It has been be seen to be believed.
Probably just my imagination but...
Is that a beard on the dinosaur?
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 6:47 am
I told you it was shit.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 11:12 am
That dinosaur looks ridiculous. LOL It looks like something out of a B movie. I still can't believe there are so many of these museums. Some people just can't let go of the Bible.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 11:39 am
Lol! That looks like Barney with actual dinosaur teeth. This is too funny.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm
For something that supports "creation science", they sure do spend the vast majority of their time trying to disprove evolution. If they had a working theory, then why are they not focusing on that instead of attacking another? Its akin to biology attacking astronomy instead of presenting arguments for biology...it makes no sense. Its like the majority of their argument is "evolutionists say this..by they are wrong, and this is why they are wrong". The most they could ever hope for is proving evolution wrong, not proving creationism, if they keep following this system of thought.
They are only proving that they are biologically illiterate, and nothing more.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 2:02 pm
(April 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: For something that supports "creation science", they sure do spend the vast majority of their time trying to disprove evolution. If they had a working theory, then why are they not focusing on that instead of attacking another? Its akin to biology attacking astronomy instead of presenting arguments for biology...it makes no sense. Its like the majority of their argument is "evolutionists say this..by they are wrong, and this is why they are wrong". The most they could ever hope for is proving evolution wrong, not proving creationism, if they keep following this system of thought.
They are only proving that they are biologically illiterate, and nothing more.
Creationists get away with a lot of stuff from just implying that God may have a chance(of course forgetting that God is not the only solution) . We learn how to understand many things from implication(if the logic is correct then the implication is logically correct) which is the vehicle they are using to sell their psycho shit on except the kind of vehicle they are using is defective. The fallacious logic is usually assumed by the non-skeptical ones, so they don't touch that area if they can get away with it.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 2:22 pm
They say they are persecuted, but that is not true. I am all for a hypothesis being reviewed critically. Have they been posting their hypothesis to scientific journals to be reviewed? If so is it of suffecient scientific method to pass the editor of said journal to be published for world wide review? No scientific journal will publish just anything, as it would put into question their professional approach to the community. An editor should review any paper submitted to it to ensure it meets the bare minimal scientific requirements (can you make predictions from it? Is it repeatable and testable? Is it logically consistent or slam full of fallacies? ETC..). Can you imagine a scientific journal that is slam full of UFO's, Elves, and other wackadoodle speculations? Nobody would bother reading it anymore. Surely these creationists, if they are SCIENTISTS, will understand and approve of this pre-screening if they honestly wish to be taken seriously.
If they can get that far, then they deserve to have their hypothesis thrown into the gauntlet. If someone rips their hypothesis to shreds, they cannot scream "persecution", as any hypothesis goes through this gauntlet by the world scientific community. Asking for special circumstances is NOT what scientists do, at least not good ones in my opinion. If you have to ask for special circumstances, then it is a red flag that your hypothesis is speculation at best and flat out conjecture at worst in my opinion.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 3:17 pm
(April 3, 2011 at 2:22 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: They say they are persecuted, but that is not true. I am all for a hypothesis being reviewed critically. Have they been posting their hypothesis to scientific journals to be reviewed? If so is it of suffecient scientific method to pass the editor of said journal to be published for world wide review? No scientific journal will publish just anything, as it would put into question their professional approach to the community. An editor should review any paper submitted to it to ensure it meets the bare minimal scientific requirements (can you make predictions from it? Is it repeatable and testable? Is it logically consistent or slam full of fallacies? ETC..). Can you imagine a scientific journal that is slam full of UFO's, Elves, and other wackadoodle speculations? Nobody would bother reading it anymore. Surely these creationists, if they are SCIENTISTS, will understand and approve of this pre-screening if they honestly wish to be taken seriously.
If they can get that far, then they deserve to have their hypothesis thrown into the gauntlet. If someone rips their hypothesis to shreds, they cannot scream "persecution", as any hypothesis goes through this gauntlet by the world scientific community. Asking for special circumstances is NOT what scientists do, at least not good ones in my opinion. If you have to ask for special circumstances, then it is a red flag that your hypothesis is speculation at best and flat out conjecture at worst in my opinion.
Good point.
People who take things at face value will always be misled and have excuses at the ready to defend themselves from their lack of intelligence.
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Creationist are always crying about how they are being persecuted by the scientific community, it seems like the can dish it out but they can't take it. Christians love to call evolutionary theory a product of Satan to mislead us all from the truth: That God created the heavens and the Earth and everything in it, around it, and outside of it (the universe). They love to make positive assertions based on no evidence whatsoever, and we are supposed to accept everything they say by "faith." Has anyone ever read 'The Book of Martyrs'? What a hoot, they like to talk about how they were persecuted since the foundation of the Christian church but they to forget to add how they turned around and did the exact same thing when they gained the backing and the power of the Roman empire. What hypocritical pricks!
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RE: Creation Museum
April 3, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Oh how they like to play victem. ![[Image: Oppressed.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_NpQEWDE3XBg%2FTTp3PHsEcYI%2FAAAAAAAABzE%2F30qYGd0SsPc%2Fs1600%2FOppressed.jpg)
They need a good slap in my opinion.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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