The shape of Earth

[The Grand Nudger]

You can clearly observe it just a few meters above ground level, though we do get alot of much better pictures and footage from orbit.

Not really an issue of trusting a government. There was no other point..was there?

[Peebothuhlu]

1) Okay, so how high does an observer have to travel before they can clearly observe the shape of Earth?

2) Do you guys have footage?

Also, do you trust the government?

1) and 2)





What does trust of my country's or other countrys Government have to do with the question at hand?

Cheers.

Not at work.

[Angrboda]

How high is the sky?

[h311inac311]

Can footage be faked?

Why wouldn't the issue of trust matter?

Have these claims been independently verified?

Also, Nudger, there are plenty of individuals who have actually captured footage with a Nikon P900 who would disagree with you. People who have taken photos of city skylines across more than 60 miles of water for instance.

Advances in science are not made by an appeal to authority. Also, there are plenty of people who have placed cameras on weather baloons who have come to the opposite conclusion, that there is no visible curvature to Earth and that the horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer. Unless of course you use a fish-eye lense.

[Peebothuhlu]

1) Can footage be faked?

2) Why wouldn't the issue of trust matter?

3) Have these claims been independently verified?

Also, Nudger, there are plenty of individuals who have actually captured footage with a Nikon P900 who would disagree with you. People who have taken photos of city skylines across more than 60 miles of water for instance.

4) (A)Advances in science are not made by an appeal to authority. Also, (B)there are plenty of people who have placed cameras on weather baloons who have come to the opposite conclusion, that there is no visible curvature to Earth and that the horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer. Unless of course you use a fish-eye lense.

1) Yes. However this in no way implies that ALL images have been faked.

2) The question innitially mentioned 'Governments'. It was not focussed on 'Trust'. Governments are not and have not always been the organizations which have been exploring our world.

3) Yes. See video above.

4) (A) This is true. I have not been doing such. I've just been offering what's been quickly and freely available for replies.

(B) People can also be wrong, incorrect and other wise fallable. As (I think) the video does address in passing.

Also, in regards to (B) are you not actually thus making an appeal to 'Aurthority' yourself? As in 'Look at these people's stuff but not these other people's stuff'?

Does the 'Reply' function not work for you?

Cheers.

Not at work.

[The Grand Nudger]

Also a completely understood and well documented phenomena. You started this off by insisting that atheists particularly...for some reason, ought to look into this more..for some reason.

One of those times you ought to take your own advice eh, even if it's just to come up with a better bit.

[Fake Messiah]

Also, Nudger, there are plenty of individuals who have actually captured footage with a Nikon P900 who would disagree with you. People who have taken photos of city skylines across more than 60 miles of water for instance.

And, people have also used Nikon P900 to prove that basketballs are flat.

[zebo-the-fat]

many different countries have put satellites in orbit (many of them to spy on the others) These can easily be seen from the ground if you know where and when to look (easy to get the information) The observed paths follow the path path predicted by orbital mechanics. I myself have used radio to transmit a signal to and from some of these and the time delay observed matches the time predicted by the altitude of the satellite and the speed of light (same as the speed of radio waves) No governments were involved in this in any way and it's hard to think of any other explanation other than the satellites were in orbit about 200 miles high

[arewethereyet]

As we see from space, it is an oblate spheroid. Why do you ask?

Really? who told you that?

Who is the observer and how high are they?

The appropriate question is how high are you?

[The Grand Nudger]

It's an absolute wonder that all of those faked satellite images just so happen to coincide with the actual state of affairs on the ground to the point that they can be used to direct successful artillery. As if a map of mordor was a perfect fit for some actual ao.