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The shape of Earth
#21
RE: The shape of Earth
This reminds me of my Christian flat-earther friend, Eddie McCain. Poor old Eddie never met a biblical or right-wing conspiracy theory he didn't find more plausible than reality. He also thought getting vaccinated for Covid was 'accepting the Mark of the Beast'. RIP, Eddie. Angel
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#22
RE: The shape of Earth
(July 19, 2022 at 11:37 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Advances in science are not made by an appeal to authority. Also, there are plenty of people who have placed cameras on weather baloons who have come to the opposite conclusion, that there is no visible curvature to Earth and that the horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer. Unless of course you use a fish-eye lense.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#23
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To the OP- Billy, is this you?
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#24
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The Earth can't be flat, I can see hills from my window!
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#25
RE: The shape of Earth
(July 19, 2022 at 11:37 am)h311inac311 Wrote: ... the horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer.
That makes no sense regardless of the shape of the Earth
If I'm looking straight ahead at the horizon, and as I were to go straight up the horizon always stays directly ahead of me, then that means the ground in the distance is rising too. I think people would notice that happening.
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#26
RE: The shape of Earth
Those satellites would be clipping into the ends of the inverse arch, and reading a flat surface on the opposite side as a consequence of their orbits matching it's curvature on that leg.

Neither thing is occurring.
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#27
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‘I have seen the shadow of the Earth on the moon, and I have more faith in the shadow than in the Church.’ - Ferdinand Magellan 

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#28
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The view of the night sky from different places on Earth proves that the Earth is a sphere. QED.

There are dozens of pieces of evidence that can be calculated or measured by the average person. The fact that a flat-Earther doesn't bother to test their own claims tells you all that you need to know about them.

Flat Earth for most is a fun joke. For the real believers, it is a group that they can belong to and feel special. It is no different than other conspiracy theory groups, or for that matter, religions.
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#29
RE: The shape of Earth
(July 19, 2022 at 10:59 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Premis: We don't know what shape Earth actually is.

Persuade me, do you know the shape of this realm? 

Can you stretch the line across it an measure it for me?

Regardless of your position, any non-God fearing person should embrace the challenge of proving their knowledge of something as foundational as the ground we stand upon.

It's an oblate spheroid, in fact very close to being a perfect sphere. Here's some of the evidence.

Now, bullshit artist, will you tell us what this nonsense is about?
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#30
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(July 19, 2022 at 12:19 pm)Fireball Wrote: To the OP- Billy, is this you?

He died in 1988.
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