The Absurd GOP

[TheWhiteMarten]

Close proximity would be my guess, same issue here in the US and likely most of the world; UOJs tend to live in essentially segregated communities, in places turning just a few blocks into densely packed slums like you would think of in the early 1900s New York - just with a lot more law and order. 

Hotbed for disease; the inbreeding probably doesn't help either...

Which would probably point against them supposedly being less effected by COVID, despite what RFK said.

Ultra Orthodox make up a rough 10-15% of global... Jewry? ... and have significantly different living standards from your average Jew - in America, something like 80%+ are secular Jews and I believe that's pretty consistent amongst the Ashkenazim community globally.

Us Sephardim just learned Spanish, came to the New World and picked up discount Catholicism .

(Jewry apparently is the proper word, but something about that just sounds icky.)

[TheWhiteMarten]

And you think quality control can get so horrible that they can put preservatives in the vaccines in concentrations that would be hundreds of times higher than usual, do it so consistently that it can lead to a massive outbreak in a developmental disorder, and hush it up so effectively that there's still plausible deniability even as rates go up?

And, if we're taking into account actual events, manage to fuck up so badly that even when the supposed agent in this is removed (and, out of an abundance of caution, thimerosal hasn't been in any vaccines except some flu shots since 2001), rates of autism diagnoses still go up?

No.

What I believe, though I cannot confirm if it's 100% consistent with RFK Jr. though I find it to often be, is that corporations can and have bribed inspectors to look the other way and used manipulative tactics in the media, courtroom, and even streets to intimidate and coerce judges, juries, and scientists to help them avoid trillions of dollars of fines and reparations they owe the human race. 

It's not about "covering it up" - I've been more than acutely aware of what chemical companies have done to places like Plaquemine and the farms around Central and Eastern Texas and places like Flint and Palestine, OH are well known - as much as it is about avoiding any responsibility for their actions.




I don't know what the cause of rising rates of autism are, though the reasonable answer is it has to do with the hundreds of petrochemical and other heavy industry products that end up in our food, water, air and on our skin. Taking mercury out of our medicines, even if it didn't fix the problem, is still the right move; ask the Chinese and the Venetians how mercury medicine goes....

[The Architect Of Fate]

And totally unfounded conspiracy drivel

[Rev. Rye]

I don't know what the cause of rising rates of autism are, though the reasonable answer is it has to do with the hundreds of petrochemical and other heavy industry products that end up in our food, water, air and on our skin. Taking mercury out of our medicines, even if it didn't fix the problem, is still the right move; ask the Chinese and the Venetians how mercury medicine goes....

Meanwhile, in the real world, people are actually studying the causes of autism and, well, we don't have a firm answer, but what we've been able to find suggests that the causes of autism lean pretty heavily towards genetics.

And why do the rates of autism diagnoses go up? Because we know more about it. The term wasn't even coined until the 1940s, and it remained an obscure condition until the late Eighties. And it took a few more decades until the average layman started to figure out that we don't all act like this:




The consensus is that the actual incidence of autism isn't actually increasing. It's just getting better understood.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Taking mercury out only makes sense if it was actually dangerous otherwise all you did was remove something for no reason and again there is zero evidence autism is caused by mercury also Ethyl mercury is the same kind of mercury  as the Chinese or Venetians were using. Also, the reason we're finding more Autistic people is that we're better at screening for them and there is a lot less stigma than there use to be.

[Fake Messiah]

RFK Jr. on Russian TV claimed the World Health Organization fabricated pandemics like the swine flu and the H1N1 so they could sell medications.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Either you're mighty forgetful, or dishonest. Which is it?

False dilemma fallacy. 

So you're admitting that you may be both forgetful and dishonest.

Perhaps you are right, the accusation of a strawman (I believe) carries an implication of intentionally misinterpreting the position, whereas it might have done innocently and in mistake. I can't claim to know your intentions and shouldn't assume the worse, my apologies. 

I actually quoted your claim twice. You argue that allowing gendered males -- biological or trans -- is a "risk" in fem bathrooms. I am only replying to your own words.

You can either defend them or disown them ... but you somehow seem to lack the stones to do either.

Where is the false dilemma here? You stated, and, I quote:

"Either you're mighty forgetful, or dishonest. Which is it?"

lol, so you're both forgetful and dishonest.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I can come in here with sources, references, citations and the best I can get is insults and logical fallacies.

Actually I press home questions and you skip and dodge. I'm not insulting you. I'm not straw-manning you. I'm just putting your words back in your face. You argue that allowing any men into fem bathrooms is a risk, but you absolutely refuse to posit evidence in the form of statistics showing, you know, trans men raping girls.

So really, shut up whining and make your case. Or just shut up.

Be it noted: there's no personal attack or logical fallacy in this post.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I can come in here with sources, references, citations and the best I can get is insults and logical fallacies.

Actually I press home questions and you skip and dodge. I'm not insulting you. I'm not straw-manning you. I'm just putting your words back in your face. You argue that allowing any men into fem bathrooms is a risk, but you absolutely refuse to posit evidence in the form of statistics showing, you know, trans men raping girls.

So really, shut up whining and make your case. Or just shut up.

Be it noted: there's no personal attack or logical fallacy in this post.

Facts

[Thumpalumpacus]

First Stage - Non Sequitur
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Statement A:  "Allowing men - transexual or not - into women's bathrooms poses an inherent risk to women."

Response: "You allege that any sort of man, trans or no, is dangerous."

You don't seem to understand that "risk" involves danger, and that imputing one implies the other. If men of any sort are an "inherent risk" to women in a restroom, it follows that men in a restroom of women are dangerous.

This is not a non sequitur. This is a logical extension of your claim.

I understand you want to dance on the balance beam, but you really can't have it both ways. You think that allowing men into a women's room, including trans women, is dangerous to women. Now present your evidence that this is so.