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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 24, 2022 at 3:49 pm
(August 24, 2022 at 2:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (August 24, 2022 at 1:14 pm)Believe Heart Wrote: The claim was "Quran also has problems like hadith" if you don't come with any questions about it I close the subject. I have no time to waste with the cynical behavior of immature adults born of excessive need for attention.
Well...sure, right? Any problems intrinsic to the process that created both sets, but, also..beyond problems of shared process, tons of morally and factually dodgy shit in both sets.
Just come up with one of them to start.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 24, 2022 at 5:11 pm
Three questions:
1. Why are you here on an atheist forum?
2. Are we really supposed to care about your religion when there are so many we could care about if we were so inclined?
3. When questioned, do you always threaten to take your ball and go home?
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 24, 2022 at 5:30 pm
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Come up with just one problem in narrator chains or the contents of magic book? Why?
Sigh, fine, let’s start here. Magic books god is a raging garbage fire. Magic books alleged narrator is a child raping warlord.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 2:14 am
(August 24, 2022 at 5:11 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Three questions:
1. Why are you here on an atheist forum?
2. Are we really supposed to care about your religion when there are so many we could care about if we were so inclined?
3. When questioned, do you always threaten to take your ball and go home?
1- I'm curious about your point of view
2- When there is earth, sawdust and gold in a jar, do you not value gold just because there is soil and sawdust in the jar?
3- You did not ask any real question, but instead attacked with mockery.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 2:58 am
(August 25, 2022 at 2:14 am)Believe Heart Wrote: (August 24, 2022 at 5:11 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Three questions:
1. Why are you here on an atheist forum?
2. Are we really supposed to care about your religion when there are so many we could care about if we were so inclined?
3. When questioned, do you always threaten to take your ball and go home?
1- I'm curious about your point of view
2- When there is earth, sawdust and gold in a jar, do you not value gold just because there is soil and sawdust in the jar?
3- You did not ask any real question, but instead attacked with mockery.
I'm more likely to value the soil and sawdust.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 3:12 am
(August 24, 2022 at 5:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Come up with just one problem in narrator chains or the contents of magic book? Why?
Sigh, fine, let’s start here. Magic books god is a raging garbage fire. Magic books alleged narrator is a child raping warlord.
You got your information about that Magical (Facinating) book and its Narrator from Loki. Therefore your ideas are really really deceived.
First of all, when Aisha married to Prophet she was 19 years old. (We know it because when Prophet died she was 28 years old and they were married for 9 years).
Aisha really loved the Prophet and He also loved her. I will talk about only 3 memories that they lived.
But to explain the first one, I must give a brief description.
Joseph (the prophet) was a very beautiful boy and was loved very much by his father (Jacob (Prophet)). His brothers envied him and threw him into a well, a trade caravan found him and sold him as a slave to a noble from the Egyptian palace. Since this person had no children and Joseph was very beautiful, he adopted him. But when Joseph grew up, he became an irresistibly handsome boy, and his stepmother fell in love with him. Rumors spread in the palace. Then his stepmother summoned the women of the palace and placed fruit plates and knives in front of them, and called Joseph while they were peeling the fruit. The women were so fascinated that they cut their hands while looking at Joseph. Then Joseph's stepmother said, "This is Joseph, whose love you accuse me of."
Coming back to our topic,
Aisha says, "What would the women who cut off their fingers when they saw Yusuf saw the Prophet (Muhammad)?"
Aisha, a young girl who was also brought up in the Prophet's education, was a religious scholar, and people would get answers by asking her about contradictory issues after the Prophet's death. They once asked, "How about a woman adorning for her husband?" Aisha replied, "I used to apply such fragrant oil that the Prophet's beard would shine."
Once, People asked Ayşe; "Does kissing break the ablution?" (Ablution: washing hands, face, arms and feet before prayer).
Aisha replies: "Once, the Prophet kissed one of his wives and then went to the mosque to pray".
The person who asked the question smiled and said, "That wife was none other than you, wasn't it?" Aisha smiled and shook her head.
Finally, during a campaign, the Prophet ordered the army to "go ahead" and he and his wife Aisha stayed behind. Then he said, "Let's race". They competed and Aisha (as a young girl) passed the Prophet. Years passed, and during another expedition, the Prophet said let's race again. Ayşe tells about this event as follows: "I couldn't pass the prophet this time because I gained weight, so he laughed at me and said, "This is revenge."
In short, they were a happy couple who loved each other. You won't find the opposite in any book about them.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 3:20 am
(August 25, 2022 at 2:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 25, 2022 at 2:14 am)Believe Heart Wrote: 1- I'm curious about your point of view
2- When there is earth, sawdust and gold in a jar, do you not value gold just because there is soil and sawdust in the jar?
3- You did not ask any real question, but instead attacked with mockery.
I'm more likely to value the soil and sawdust.
Boru Indeed you can at least eat sawdust and soil and actually gain some nutrients from it. Gold by contrast on its own doesn't have much inherent value.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 3:33 am
(August 25, 2022 at 3:20 am)Helios Wrote: (August 25, 2022 at 2:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'm more likely to value the soil and sawdust.
Boru Indeed you can at least eat sawdust and soil and actually gain some nutrients from it. Gold by contrast on its own doesn't have much inherent value.
Do you know what I see here?
People who have built their brain blocks just to beat their arguing opponent,
people who play word games
People who make fun of the other person when they are stuck.
Why don't you just sit up a little and try to bravely face the truth?
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 3:39 am
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(August 25, 2022 at 3:12 am)Believe Heart Wrote: First of all, when Aisha married to Prophet she was 19 years old. (We know it because when Prophet died she was 28 years old and they were married for 9 years). I see that you prefer to use the highest age you can scrounge up on the range of estimates. OFC, no one would have batted an eye at her young age in his own time. No one did. It's for the exact same reason you do that....today....that I reject your entire disgusting religion.
Quote:Aisha really loved the Prophet and He also loved her. I will talk about only 3 memories that they lived.
Most abused girls are abused by someone they deeply care for. Even this excuse..to me..is disgusting. A disgusting excuse for a disgusting act.
Quote:In short, they were a happy couple who loved each other. You won't find the opposite in any book about them.
That the abuser and the dependent found a way to be satisfied is of no consequence to me. Child raping warlord is just a factual description of your prophet. Whether or not there's something wrong with that is up to you to decide...but do understand, any argument you make to repair the character of a child raping warlord is simply an acknowledgement of that point.
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RE: Islam itself says Muhammad is a liar
August 25, 2022 at 3:42 am
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(August 25, 2022 at 3:33 am)Believe Heart Wrote: (August 25, 2022 at 3:20 am)Helios Wrote: Indeed you can at least eat sawdust and soil and actually gain some nutrients from it. Gold by contrast on its own doesn't have much inherent value.
Do you know what I see here?
People who have built their brain blocks just to beat their arguing opponent,
people who play word games
People who make fun of the other person when they are stuck.
Why don't you just sit up a little and try to bravely face the truth? Then suggest you have your eyes examined friend, And you would know the truth if it bit you on the nose so spar me your pretentious posturing.
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