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Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
#31
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 3:52 pm)Eclectic Wrote: The second reason that proved to me that Muhammad, the Messenger of God, and his God are both bastards is God's command to promote terror.
Muhammad, the Messenger of God, and the imams killed anyone who was a preacher of a religion other than Islam!
Also, kiling a captive is an honor in Islam. In Khandaq war, Mohammad  ordered the execution of children over 12 years old.

Again, this sort of behaviour doesn’t seem to be exclusive to Islam.

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#32
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 5:07 pm)R00tKiT Wrote:
(August 25, 2022 at 4:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I already answered both of these questions, the latter right there in the bit you quoted......  Mind you, in a realist understanding, it doesn't matter what you put into any given category, it matters why you put it there.  The statement either does or does not report a fact.  I could conceivably call a thing evil, because I feel a particular way about it, maybe it's close to me (as you imagine the issue of a cheating spouse will have any given woman plotting murder as they apprehend a moral monster, lol) - but that's not my position on the morality of it speaking, if so, that's just my emotional investment compromising my rational agency. 

It's probably more than just your emotional investment ....... one can plausibly argue that tolerating cheating -as long as one can get away with it- threatens family stability, and hence society. Maybe an increased number of unfaithful husbands is correlated with, say, a higher divorce rate. This might be an argument to condemn cheating even under moral realism.

But let's say there really is no factual basis for condemning this act, it's still conceivable, as you said, to call it evil.

(August 25, 2022 at 4:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All you're saying there, is that you believe that there is no objective reason or explanation for why disobeying a supernatural being is an evil act.  Is that what you believe?

In a world where naturalism is true, there is obviously no objective reason for why disobeying a supernatural being is evil, because there wouldn't be any supernatural being.. In a world where theism is true or, at least, where naturalism isn't clearly true, one can indeed have good reasons to believe that such an act is evil -say, they had a genuine religious experience that justifies their personal belief and hence their fear of God etc.

(August 25, 2022 at 4:35 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Cheating is a broken promise.  It can cause hurt and mistrust.  I might go so far as to say it's evil if the person he cheated with was my sister (which would never happen as they don't like one another) or my best friend.  But it still wouldn't be evil in a heaven or hell kinda way.

Precisely. It's still an evil act even if the person gets away with it, and no one in their right mind can tolerate such an act.. for me religion clearly has an advantage here as it explicitly condemns it, whereas secularism fails to do so.
Read that again.  I said it isn't an evil act in a heaven or hell kinda way.

Mean, thoughtless, I can think of a lot of adjectives, but evil would be an emotional reaction while I was freshly pissed off.
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#33
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
Exhorting followers to explode themselves as means to murder is evil.  Forget long-winded blatherings.  If ever there was a use for the word evil, besides super-villain or stuntman. . .

Maybe exhorting followers to explode themselves wasn't what the founders of this or that religion intended the religion to become.  But if that's what it does, that's what it is.  Which is the problem religions run into when they say, love everyone, but kill them all the same.
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RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 11:11 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Exhorting followers to explode themselves as means to murder is evil.  Forget long-winded blatherings.  If ever there was a use for the word evil, besides super-villain or stuntman. . .

Maybe exhorting followers to explode themselves wasn't what the founders of this or that religion intended the religion to become.  But if that's what it does, that's what it is.  Which is the problem religions run into when they say, love everyone, but kill them all the same.

I think one can separate Muslim culture from Muslim religion. While there are evils in the religion itself, the majority of despicable behaviors stem from the cultures.
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#35
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
Right. For example, many Muslims think female circumsision is mandated in the Q'uran, but it's not. It was practiced by the local culture and sort of got assimilated into the local Islamic practice. FGM is now illegal in Somalia, a country that is over 90% Muslim; and part of the effort to arrive at that point was to show villages that Mohammed never said you had to circumsize your female children.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#36
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 26, 2022 at 9:18 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Right. For example, many Muslims think female circumsision is mandated in the Q'uran, but it's not. It was practiced by the local culture and sort of got assimilated into the local Islamic practice. FGM is now illegal in Somalia, a country that is over 90% Muslim; and part of the effort to arrive at that point was to show villages that Mohammed never said you had to circumsize your female children.

Female circumcision is not ordered in the Qur'an. However, according to Islamic laws, the individual and social rights of a woman are half of a man's, and a woman's husband is the owner of her.
A Muslim woman will be executed if she marries a non-Muslim man.
Some jurists considered compulsory divorce to be sufficient, but ruled that after divorce, the woman must marry the man that the mullahs declare.
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RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 26, 2022 at 9:13 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(August 25, 2022 at 11:11 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Exhorting followers to explode themselves as means to murder is evil.  Forget long-winded blatherings.  If ever there was a use for the word evil, besides super-villain or stuntman. . .

Maybe exhorting followers to explode themselves wasn't what the founders of this or that religion intended the religion to become.  But if that's what it does, that's what it is.  Which is the problem religions run into when they say, love everyone, but kill them all the same.

I think one can separate Muslim culture from Muslim religion.  While there are evils in the religion itself, the majority of despicable behaviors stem from the cultures.

You are completely wrong!
On the contrary, the principle of Islam is more anti-human than the cultures that emerged from Islam!
I have a lot of respect for Christ. Because I see that the foundation of Christianity is only tolerance, forgiveness, kindness, and non-violence. Just a few hundred years after Jesus, violence was added to Christianity.
But on the contrary, the religion of Islam is full of oppression.
If Allah really is a god, Muhammad has taken away the honor of God and he throw shit on God with the religion of Islam. Allah, who is the God of Islam, is an abomination and a bastard who is not worthy of worship. The Quran should be burned. But Christ and the Holy Spirit, unlike God, are good.



ISIS, Taliban and al-Qaeda are very evil and bastards, but they are softer than the Prophet, imams and early Muslims.
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#38
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 2:25 pm)Eclectic Wrote: hello friends
Many years ago, I used to be a Muslim. I am now an agnostic.
There are many reasons why Islam is evily.
I will mention some. I was a Muslim and I hated Islam by reading books on the history of Islam written by Islamic missionaries. Before the internet. Before anti-Islamic books and sites are available on the internet. I was muslim but when read book that mullah had written about Islam i exited Islam.

Hello.

Never read somebody's opinion about something; but read the source message.

For example, Christianity. Read the Bible
But for Islam: read the Quran,
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#39
RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 2:32 pm)Eclectic Wrote: When a creature claims absolute superiority and absolute right, it should not do anything wrong!
If he makes a mistake, he is no longer God.

Part of man's seeking God is related to human nature.
Sometimes the recognition of oppression is completely natural and correctly recognized.

Yes. The Quran has no mistakes.
I read it for years, no errors, no mistakes.

Mistakes = human intervention. Humans make mistakes/
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RE: Why do I say that Islam is an evil religion?
(August 25, 2022 at 3:13 pm)Eclectic Wrote: (add after some reply :in this topic evil=satanic=anti-human)
One of the reasons that Islam and Allah are anti-human is that it supports slavery.
According to the decree of the bastard god of the Muslims, whose name is Allah, when the Muslims win over the non-Muslims, they are allowed to loot the city. They are allowed to break the doors of the houses and separate the women and girls from the family and sell them for sexual act in other countries as a female slave called slave.
They can have sex with their slave whenever they want and beat her whenever they want and lend their slave to their friends to have sex whenever they want.

The bastard mohamad prophet and all the bastard imams have done this.
Slave women were no longer sexually attractive when they reached middle age and were cheaper and were freed in their old age because the cost of keeping them was higher than the profit of their work.

Let's not go into this path, because non-Muslims are the most terrible booty takers in history: I mean lookg at the Mongols, the Vikings, the Crusaders, Vlad the Impaler, shall I continue?

One of the modern non-Muslim incidents geocoding Muslims that shocked the world took place in Europe by the Serbs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre


Quote:The Srebrenica massacre (Serbo-CroatianMasakr u Srebrenici / Масакр у Сребреници), also known as the Srebrenica genocide[7] (Serbo-CroatianGenocid u Srebrenici / Геноцид у Сребреници), was the July 1995 genocidal[8] killing of more than 8,000[9] Bosniak Muslim men and boys in and around the town of Srebrenica, during the Bosnian War.[10]

So I want to be respectful to you, but *** you and have a nice day.
We Muslims have so much moe to fear from you.
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