What do you think about the police?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It does NOT ensure that the laws themselves will be fair or just.

Of course. If everybody in Ireland was banned from owning a lot of land, that would also be rule of law, albeit a rule of a very unjust and dangerous law (which is very unlikely to be passed). But Brits being above the law that applies only to Catholics is not a rule of law.

*sigh* Just because you’re saying the wrong thing over and over doesn’t move you closer to saying the right thing.

There is nothing unusual or even inherently unfair about different laws applying to different classes of people. This has nothing to do with ROL.

Boru

[FlatAssembler]

Because you consider everything irrelevant instead of addressing the arguments.

No, i consider what is irrelevant as irrelevant and thus requires no response as it is no argument....

 I have explained how the flawed statistical system during the Great Chinese Famine had everything to do with communism. You are just hand-waving it.

You explained nothing and I treated the nothing you provided as nothing and simply repeated those facts. That's not handwaving no matter how much you wish to claim it is...

Then perhaps we have a very different definition of communism. Can you define that term? I think "communism" means "an attempt to achieve equality at the expense of liberty" or "putting equality before liberty". As the Latin slogan of the Hippies says "Nulla libertas nisi aequales simus.". And a statistical system seems to be necessary to achieve that.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So your response is yet another ramble that is simply errors stacked on errors ....

[arewethereyet]

As a hippie for many years, I have never said that.

How in the hell are we quoting hippies in Latin now? Good lord god. I miss 37.

[FlatAssembler]

Of course. If everybody in Ireland was banned from owning a lot of land, that would also be rule of law, albeit a rule of a very unjust and dangerous law (which is very unlikely to be passed). But Brits being above the law that applies only to Catholics is not a rule of law.

*sigh* Just because you’re saying the wrong thing over and over doesn’t move you closer to saying the right thing.

There is nothing unusual or even inherently unfair about different laws applying to different classes of people. This has nothing to do with ROL.

Boru

You know, it is hard to have a discussion about politics with you when you operate under some strange definitions of political terms. To me, "capitalist government" means "government that does not intervene in the economy". To you, a government passing racist laws making it impossible for Irish Catholics to grow anything other than potato is somehow capitalist. To me, "rule of law" implies equality before the law. To you, a government passing blatantly racist laws somehow obeys the rule of law.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So far Boru has been more coherent and informed than you. So giving him a lecture is futile.

[arewethereyet]

*sigh* Just because you’re saying the wrong thing over and over doesn’t move you closer to saying the right thing.

There is nothing unusual or even inherently unfair about different laws applying to different classes of people. This has nothing to do with ROL.

Boru

You know, it is hard to have a discussion about politics with you when you operate under some strange definitions of political terms. To me, "capitalist government" means "government that does not intervene in the economy". To you, a government passing racist laws making it impossible for Irish Catholics to grow anything other than potato is somehow capitalist. To me, "rule of law" implies equality before the law. To you, a government passing blatantly racist laws somehow obeys the rule of law.

The problem is largely based on 'your' definitions.

[The Architect Of Fate]

If you can even call it a definition.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

*sigh* Just because you’re saying the wrong thing over and over doesn’t move you closer to saying the right thing.

There is nothing unusual or even inherently unfair about different laws applying to different classes of people. This has nothing to do with ROL.

Boru

You know, it is hard to have a discussion about politics with you when you operate under some strange definitions of political terms. To me, "capitalist government" means "government that does not intervene in the economy". To you, a government passing racist laws making it impossible for Irish Catholics to grow anything other than potato is somehow capitalist. To me, "rule of law" implies equality before the law. To you, a government passing blatantly racist laws somehow obeys the rule of law.

1. No, capitalism is an economic system in which goods and services are controlled by private individuals for profit. It’s got nothing to do with government intervention.

2. Same answer regarding potatoes.

3. ‘Rule of law’ means (and means only) that no one is to be excused from the penalties of breaking the law. Unfettered ‘equality before the law’ would be a nightmare.

This discussion would go a lot more smoothly if you could educate yourself about what these terms actually mean, rather than relying on what they mean to you.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Capitalism, the private ownership of the means of production.
Communism, the public ownership of the means of production.

Did GB have a broadly capitalist economy at the time? Yes. Was that form of economic organization the cause of the blight, or the famine. No. Strong measures were taken to ensure that capitalism could not undermine british health and wellbeing- at the expense of the irish. I believe the phrase is "god caused the blight, england caused the famine"....?

It was by following the rule of those laws, that the english secured their goods, and by those laws the irish lost what little they had left - leading to diaspora.

If we posited an alternate universe where GB had a largely communist economy at the time - and all other things and actors being equal - they would have done the same thing - as it was the english public that the anti-irish measures were taken to protect. Effectively seizing irish means of production, for the british publics good. It was believed to be better that many irish died or fled, than that an englishman paid more for bread.