Trump and Russia

[Belacqua]

Finally, someone is telling the truth about Trump and Russia. Namely, that everything we heard about their connection was false.

People have been propagandized to hate Russia for generations. Here is a case where this hatred was used in the US for partisan purposes.

The main thing to take away from this is that the corporate media is more than willing to lie. (As if we didn't know that already.)

https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trump...part-1.php

[The Grand Nudger]

Put down the trump brand koolaid Bel, that shit is bad for you....and has absolutely no bearing on russias invasion of ukraine.

[arewethereyet]

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[Neo-Scholastic]

Sadly, Nudger, it is not Trump propaganda. Hillary peddled a lie the mainsteam media group think wanted to believe. And you still want to believe because it is too painful to admit you were manipulated.

[Belacqua]

Sadly, Nudger, it is not Trump propaganda. Hillary peddled a lie the mainsteam media group think wanted to believe. And you still want to believe because it is too painful to admit you were manipulated.

Part of the horror of the whole RussiaGate hoax is how the journalists who spread it still refuse to acknowledge what happened. 

These things continue to be exposed. For example there was a group called Hamilton 68, which was ostensibly tasked with exposing Russian interference on social media. It's now been shown that what they really did was accuse Americans whose politics they didn't like. This Russian derangement syndrome allowed them to get censorship of free speech that they didn't like. 

https://www.racket.news/p/move-over-jays...t-hamilton

[The Architect Of Fate]

Ah Neo and Bel spewing rightwing bilge 

[Fake Messiah]

People have been propagandized to hate Russia for generations. Here is a case where this hatred was used in the US for partisan purposes.

So people hate Russia and it is not because Russia invaded Ukraine but because Hillary told them.

[Belacqua]

For example, it was widely reported that Hunter Biden's laptop was some kind of Russian scheme.

Max Abrahms recently wrote the following:

Right before the election America’s top intel veterans (e.g., 5 former CIA Directors) published a letter that Hunter’s laptop was Russian. The media repeated the absurdity as fact. Joe cited the absurdity in the debates to silence the matter. Hunter now admits the laptop was his.

The point is that the story doesn't have to be true to be effective. It just has to be widely repeated at the right time. Retractions, if any, can be done quietly later on.

Just for reference, here is Abrahm's resume:

Dr. Max Abrahms is among the world's leading experts on the subject of terrorism. Currently, he is a professor of political science and public policy at Northeastern University. He has held various affiliations with the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University, the Empirical Studies of Conflict project at Princeton University and Stanford University, the Dickey Center for International Understanding at Dartmouth College, the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point Military Academy, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Center for Cyber and Homeland Security at George Washington University, the Center for the Study of Terrorism in Rome, the Moshe Dayan Center at Tel Aviv University, the economics department at Bar Ilan University, the political science department at Johns Hopkins University, and the Belfer Center at Harvard University.

[Belacqua]

chapter 2

https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trump...part-2.php

[Silver]

Even if there was no connection between Trump and Russia, it doesn't negate Russia's malevolence.