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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 8:22 am
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(June 6, 2023 at 8:04 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Still, huh? Fine, how many of his daughters did your prophet impregnate in magic book?
The only counter-argument that I truly took into consideration was "Famine Stela":
https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/4/540...onic-diary
Quote:Is Imhotep and Prophet Joseph the same person?’
Many people believe that this story is related to Prophet Joseph's story of the seven-year starvation in Quran and the Old Testament
So there is a counter augment that is very very strong because it is based on the ancient documentation of the Famine on a rock carved by ancient Egyptians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_Stela
So there are two theories now: either Joseph was "Imhotep", or Joseph was "Akhnaten".
In both cases, you can't refute the archeological evidence.
And in both cases, it's jaw-dropping that Mohammed peace be upon him knew about this.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 8:47 am
This is not a counterargument or a theory, you're just babbling. Babbling, this time, about some ben carson grain silo bullshit. What egyptologists call "pyramidiotism". What evidence? What, do you think, big mo knew about..exactly?
I'll ask again, how many of his daughters did your prophet impregnate in magic book?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 8:57 am
(June 6, 2023 at 8:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: This is not a counterargument or a theory, you're just babbling. Babbling, this time, about some ben carson grain silo bullshit. What egyptologists call "pyramidiotism". What evidence? What, do you think, big mo knew about..exactly?
I'll ask again, how many of his daughters did your prophet impregnate in magic book?
In Joseph's story in the Quran, there is a part mentioning that the ruler of Egypt had a dream that was interpreted by Joseph, the interpretation was that a 7 year famine would come. After the sharp interpretation, Joseph was rewarded with freedom from the prison + becoming an official in the Egyptian kingdom.
Food for thought.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 9:11 am
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Famine was a routine occurence for egypts thousands of years. You're telling me that you think it's a miracle that whoever wrote magic book knew the sun rose in the east? Akhenaten was born a prince, and neither akhenaten nor imhotep were prisoners. Meanwhile, you refuse to tell me how many of his daughters joseph impregnated. Would you prefer I moved on to the next detail of akhenatens life? It gets worse from there......
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 9:20 am
(June 6, 2023 at 7:51 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 6, 2023 at 5:59 am)Deesse23 Wrote: You are wasting your time. Winter is not here to have conversations or to learn. Her is here to preach, reinforce his beliefs (by loudly professing them to anyone who is NOT interested in them) and to voice his hatred of everyone and everything he does not like, particularly non-muslims and non arabs, "the west" and of course the oh-so-evil USA.
Did i forget anything?
Each and every of his "Quranic reflection" threads are 100% about him trying to confirm his beliefs (i wonder why he needs to reinforce them so often. Does he doubt much?). He is desperately trying to pick anything and look for "Allah" in it, be it science or history.
The word "reflection" itself is enough of a reply to you
The fact that you could not address my critzicism of your "methodology" speaks for itself. If you have to retort to insults only, you already have lost the argument and decided to not participate in a conversation....which is exactly what i said. You just made my point.
We already know that you are only here to jerk off reflect. No need to make visual demonstrations of your activities here.
Go and reflect at home in the confinements of your room and leave others out of your personal business please.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 9:24 am
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(June 6, 2023 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: So there is a counter augment that is very very strong because it is based on the ancient documentation of the Famine on a rock carved by ancient Egyptians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_Stela
So there are two theories now: either Joseph was "Imhotep", or Joseph was "Akhnaten".
In both cases, you can't refute the archeological evidence.
And in both cases, it's jaw-dropping that Mohammed peace be upon him knew about this. The only jaw dropping thing is, as per usual, your willful ignorance.
From YOUR link (bolded mine):
Quote:At the time of the first translation of the stela, it was thought that the story of a seven-year-famine was connected to the biblical story in Genesis 41, where a famine of seven years also occurs. More recent investigations have shown that a seven-year famine was a motif common to nearly all cultures of the Near East:
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 9:26 am
(June 6, 2023 at 7:54 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 6, 2023 at 6:26 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Bold mine - Gog and Magog
...The Aten, focus on that for now. And look carefully in the horizon: the nuke of Russia & China (or Gog & Magog) is near. But that's another topic.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 10:01 am
(June 6, 2023 at 9:26 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (June 6, 2023 at 7:54 am)WinterHold Wrote: ...The Aten, focus on that for now. And look carefully in the horizon: the nuke of Russia & China (or Gog & Magog) is near. But that's another topic.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 1:54 pm
(June 6, 2023 at 8:57 am)WinterHold Wrote: (June 6, 2023 at 8:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: This is not a counterargument or a theory, you're just babbling. Babbling, this time, about some ben carson grain silo bullshit. What egyptologists call "pyramidiotism". What evidence? What, do you think, big mo knew about..exactly?
I'll ask again, how many of his daughters did your prophet impregnate in magic book?
In Joseph's story in the Quran, there is a part mentioning that the ruler of Egypt had a dream that was interpreted by Joseph, the interpretation was that a 7 year famine would come. After the sharp interpretation, Joseph was rewarded with freedom from the prison + becoming an official in the Egyptian kingdom.
Food for thought.
This isn't really working. The Jews must have moved to Egypt in the first intermediate period (2081-2055 BC). Imotep is a semi-divine personality who built the earliest Pyramid in about 2650 BC.
Joseph in the Quran is known a Yusuf. If I remember correctly he wasn't an architect at all. I don't really remember his story. BUt do not believe everything you hear.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The Aten.
June 6, 2023 at 1:57 pm
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Literally none of it works. The timelines are off, the details of the stories are off, the purported characters of the charctsers are off, the characterization of beliefs in all cases including fucking "joseph"..is off.
-and still, the afflicted manage to accidentally flirt with the truth. You know what -is- a theory? That the early abrahamics took this story secondhand from the egyptians and invented their very own imhotep.
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