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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 5:13 am
(July 9, 2023 at 4:30 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Do females get a load of male Virgins after death??
Muslim women stay with their husbands who get 72 virgins to fuck, so Muslim women become lesbians.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 5:33 am
(July 9, 2023 at 1:16 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All a person gets for martyrdom is grapes? I can go down to the kroger for that. What a garbage religion.
I know, right? I think if I were going to Die For The Cause, I'd want at least bacon cheeseburgers. At least.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 5:44 am
(July 8, 2023 at 5:23 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Still waiting for some convincing EVIDENCE for a god, an old book of myths is not evidence, sorry!
You’ll have all the evidence you’ll need AFTER you die.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:04 am
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(July 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Calling him an anti-Muslim proves nothing.
Anti-Muslim implies they're biased against Islam, and therefore unreliable, got it ?
(July 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Refute his history WITH FACTS or STFU.
The history of Early Islam is impossible to build if you exclude Muslims' own sirah (bc they were the closest people to Muhammad), people like Spencer reject all Islamic sources and further dismiss the independent evidence of his existence(testimonies of other documented figures outside of Arabia, whatever long-standing effects his military career had, etc.), no wonder that he concludes that Muhammad never existed. Spencer deals with evidence unfairly, that's why we shouldn't listen to him.
It's true that there is a bias risk if one accepts Islamic sources, but Muslims dealt with their history very carefully by analyzing which reports are reliable and which aren't. To sum it up for you : Muslims were naturally closer to Muhammad than non-Muslims, therefore they heard more from Muhammad directly than anybody else, therefore their account of Muhammad is first-hand. Once we get rid of the fabrications, we get a reliable history of early islam.
(July 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Telling someone they are out of their mind just shows how ignorant, weak, and unprepared you are.
You're telling us that Muhammad never existed, you're just saying that for shock value, and because you only listen to one guy -a far right islamophobic journalist, nobody really claims this anymore, including atheists. Very few scholars of Islam dare saying that Muhammad never existed -and even these few only assert that he may have never existed, they learned to qualify their statements, unlike you. It's a minority view that has been criticized by the specialists of the field.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:09 am
muhammad the pig fucker? Who gives a shit whether or not this clown existed?
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:12 am
(July 8, 2023 at 8:01 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 7:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Okay. Followup question. Supposing I martyr myself without committing suicide, would I get male virgins, female virgins, or some of both?
Sorry, it's not virgins. It's a mistranslation of the word for grapes. Grapes in paradise.
"The Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get 'hur,' and the word was taken by early commentators to mean 'virgins,' hence those 72 consorts. But in Aramaic, hur meant 'white' and was commonly used to mean 'white grapes' ".
Please spare us your ignorace of Islam. The Qur'an doesn't say anywhere that martyrs specifically get the huris', it speaks of the huris' generally as all male believers who go to heaven get huris', the info specific to martyrs is a hadith of Muhammad pbuh, not a verse.
The Qur'an also made it clear that the huris' are highly attractive women, not grapes. Now go back to learning, please.
In general, men actively desire and seek women more than women seek men. That was certainly true in Arabia because men take the initiative when it comes to marriage. So it makes sense that the Qur'an doubles down on female houris instead of male partners, which certainly exist (even if the woman wasn't married) as no one is single in paradise.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:40 am
(July 9, 2023 at 5:44 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 5:23 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Still waiting for some convincing EVIDENCE for a god, an old book of myths is not evidence, sorry!
You’ll have all the evidence you’ll need AFTER you die.
Tell me why I should believe in your weird god and not one of the thousands of others? (Thor, Zeus, Odin, Neptune, Yahweh, Freyja etc.)
How do you know anything about what will happen after you die? (reading your book of myths is not knowing, it's just repeating what someone else thinks)
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:55 am
Again assclown, who gives a single flying fuck what your stupid fairy tale books says?
god is make believe. Nonsense dreamed up by ignorant dessert dwelling fools.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 6:56 am
(July 9, 2023 at 4:30 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Do females get a load of male Virgins after death??
Why wait until death when we can just visit Comic Con?
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 9, 2023 at 7:01 am
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Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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