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Islam owns atheism with a single verse
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: "Was always" is a temporal concept. Fail. 

Again, there are many conceivable definitions of time that go beyond the physical time that we're familiar with. It's just that you have a very, very limited imagination.

(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: That exactly the same problem. Thanks for making my point for me. 

Yeah, it's the same problem, you gravely lack imagination.

(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You just contradicted yourself. 
If god didn't create Reality, then where did it come from ?and your god is no god if it didn't create Reality, and is First Cause of nothing. 

Reality is a necessary concept, which means all there is, just like 2 or 3, and God didn't create the concept of 2 things or 3 things, these are simply labels. I guess you're simply not equipped for this.
Again, reality includes God, so God creating reality would be logically impossible, so, clearly all the garbage you're writing here isn't at all a threat to theism.

Ridiculous.
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There is no god. god is make believe.

Reality does not include make beleive.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 14, 2023 at 7:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Because, according to the mythology, it created humans knowing they were flawed and knowing it would have to destroy them over and over again.  But still did it.

What do you mean by destroy them ? that God made humans mortal ? in what way does that contradict omniscience...??

(July 14, 2023 at 7:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Don't use the " free will" cop-out in response.

Because it destroys your argument ? why are you scared of the free will response ?

(July 14, 2023 at 7:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: And, according to your version of the mythology, it created multiple "prophets" each with a different version of the message.

Why not create the correct version in the first place?

All the "versions" of messages as originally inspired by God are correct, it's just that the more recent messages supercede the older ones, that's it.

Now why didn't God inspire the last definitive message from the head start? Maybe people back then weren't ready, maybe their culture was still inadequate, etc. There are many answers that one can think of. If even I can think of plausible answers and reasons, God surely has much better reasons for doing that.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
god doesn't do anything, because god is make beleive.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 7:59 am)no one Wrote: There is no god.

Prove it.

Popcorn
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 7:51 am)Loaded dice Wrote:
(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: "Was always" is a temporal concept. Fail. 

Again, there are many conceivable definitions of time that go beyond the physical time that we're familiar with. It's just that you have a very, very limited imagination.

(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: That exactly the same problem. Thanks for making my point for me. 

Yeah, it's the same problem, you gravely lack imagination.

(July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You just contradicted yourself. 
If god didn't create Reality, then where did it come from ?and your god is no god if it didn't create Reality, and is First Cause of nothing. 

Reality is a necessary concept, which means all there is, just like 2 or 3, and God didn't create the concept of 2 things or 3 things, these are simply labels. I guess you're simply not equipped for this.
Again, reality includes God, so God creating reality would be logically impossible, so, clearly all the garbage you're writing here isn't at all a threat to theism.

Ridiculous.

Unfortunately for you, your unsupported assertion that Reality includes the gods is worth nothing. 
You have no evidence it does. This is the "same-ole-same-ole" of theists since forever. You lack imagination. 
Imagination is not what's required. Faith is, and I have none. 
You are ridiculous.  

BTW 

Quote:just like 2 or 3, and God didn't create the concept of 2 things or 3 things, these are simply labels

... is what is known as a non-sequitur in Logic. You should take a Logic class ASAP.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
There is no god.

It's all the proof I need.

That statement destroys theism in a single verse.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 8:06 am)Loaded dice Wrote:
(July 15, 2023 at 7:59 am)no one Wrote: There is no god.

Prove it.

Popcorn

Unfortunately for you, you are the one making the claim, so you get to do the proving. That's how that works. 
The fact you don't know that or get that demonstrates how out-of-touch you are with human debate and discussions. 
When you get all big and start school you will learn big-people things like that. It is hard being 12 years old. We do understand.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 8:07 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Unfortunately for you, your unsupported assertion that Reality includes the gods is worth nothing. 
You have no evidence it does. This is the "same-ole-same-ole" of theists since forever. You lack imagination. 
Imagination is not what's required. Faith is, and I have none. 
You are ridiculous.  
Hilarious
We're supposing God exists in reality for the sake of this argument, Bucky. You're being dishonest and annoying now.
I guess it's clear now that your argument against theism was put to death. So, go back to the drawing board and come back with a better argument.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 8:10 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Unfortunately for you, you are the one making the claim, so you get to do the proving. That's how that works. 

Except that @no one made the claim that God doesn't exist.
Asserting that God positively doesn't exist is also a claim that needs proving.
Tell me more about me needing logic classes.  Hilarious
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