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Free Will Theodicy
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am (This post was last modified: July 10, 2023 at 10:52 am by The Grand Nudger.)
There isn't a single christian in the world who doesn't think that stringing up some jew was a good deal for them. Food for thought. I tend to agree, though, the only thing objectionable about most christians, is that one little issue there. We all have our hangups.
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am
(July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There isn't a single christian in the world who doesn't think that stringing up some jew was a good deal for them.  Food for thought.  I tend to agree, though, the only thing objectionable about most christians, is that one little issue there.  We all have our hangups.

Well Jesus was supposed to get strung up in the first place. He knew what was going to happen, and accepted it.
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 11:39 am
(July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There isn't a single christian in the world who doesn't think that stringing up some jew was a good deal for them.  Food for thought.  I tend to agree, though, the only thing objectionable about most christians, is that one little issue there.  We all have our hangups.

Well Jesus was supposed to get strung up in the first place. He knew what was going to happen, and accepted it.

According to U.S. law, you can't sell yourself into slavery as slavery is illegal regardless of your consent. I'm sure a like principle would apply here.
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 11:49 am
(July 10, 2023 at 11:39 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well Jesus was supposed to get strung up in the first place. He knew what was going to happen, and accepted it.

According to U.S. law, you can't sell yourself into slavery as slavery is illegal regardless of your consent.  I'm sure a like principle would apply here.

What? No? This wasn't the U.S., this was thousands of years ago in a different part of the world.
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 11:58 am
(July 10, 2023 at 9:50 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 9:41 am)Angrboda Wrote: A) Calvinism explicitly says it, and B) it's an analytical truth of the postulates of other Christianities.

Well Calvinism doesn't mean all forms of Christianity. I know a devout and very sincere Christian (in real life) who does believe in free will.

Ask that person if the had the free will to be born or not. 


Then ask at what stage of a human life does god grant free will?

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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm
(July 10, 2023 at 11:58 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 9:50 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well Calvinism doesn't mean all forms of Christianity. I know a devout and very sincere Christian (in real life) who does believe in free will.

Ask that person if the had the free will to be born or not. 


Then ask at what stage of a human life does god grant free will?

A person has free will as soon as their stream of consciousness begins.
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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 12:01 pm
(July 10, 2023 at 11:34 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 10:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There isn't a single christian in the world who doesn't think that stringing up some jew was a good deal for them.  Food for thought.  I tend to agree, though, the only thing objectionable about most christians, is that one little issue there.  We all have our hangups.

Well Jesus was supposed to get strung up in the first place. He knew what was going to happen, and accepted it.

No free will for Jesus, huh?

No free will for Marry. She just laid there and accepted yahwehs junk?

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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 12:02 pm
(July 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 11:58 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Ask that person if the had the free will to be born or not. 


Then ask at what stage of a human life does god grant free will?

A person has free will as soon as their stream of consciousness begins.

Give me an age?

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RE: Free Will Theodicy
July 10, 2023 at 12:12 pm
(July 10, 2023 at 12:02 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:
(July 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm)Ahriman Wrote: A person has free will as soon as their stream of consciousness begins.

Give me an age?

Well mine started when I was about 3 or 4 years old. It wouldn't be the same for every person.
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