Good exists - a Catholic comments

[LinuxGal]

You don’t have to pay any attention to God. Christians believe our souls are eternal and that we go to heaven or hell. Hell is a choice. It’s for people who choose to ignore God in their life.

So your god sets 'em on fire and says, "Ignore this!"

[Barry]

@Barry

I find it absolutely hysterical that you don’t see the flaw here:

 The Catholic Church has had a lot of problems, child abuse and the cover up being a terrible example. But it is, nevertheless, the “one, true Church”.

I always appreciate a good giggle. Ta.

Boru

Hi Boru,
The Bible story is full of human flaws, but not divine flaws. Jesus tells us to “be perfect like God”. It’s a big call. But striving to achieve it is the only way to happiness.

[Barry]

You don’t have to pay any attention to God. Christians believe our souls are eternal and that we go to heaven or hell. Hell is a choice. It’s for people who choose to ignore God in their life.

So your god sets 'em on fire and says, "Ignore this!"

Hell isn’t Fire, it’s choosing to deny oneself eternal happiness with God for short term pleasure.

[LinuxGal]

So your god sets 'em on fire and says, "Ignore this!"

Hell isn’t Fire, it’s choosing to deny oneself eternal happiness with God for short term pleasure.

Well, lets go pop open the Catechism of the Catholic Church and see what Holy Mother Church says.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."

[Ravenshire]

You don’t have to pay any attention to God. Christians believe our souls are eternal and that we go to heaven or hell. Hell is a choice. It’s for people who choose to ignore God in their life.

So your god sets 'em on fire and says, "Ignore this!"

What good christers like @Barry always neglect to mention is that regardless of whether going to hell is a choice, hell (allegedly) being a place of eternal torment was a choice made by their allegedly loving, benevolent gawd. Anything/anyone who would use infinite (torture) punishment for a finite transgression is nothing/no one worthy of worship, even if it did exist.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@Barry

I find it absolutely hysterical that you don’t see the flaw here:


I always appreciate a good giggle. Ta.

Boru

Hi Boru,
The Bible story is full of human flaws, but not divine flaws. Jesus tells us to “be perfect like God”. It’s a big call. But striving to achieve it is the only way to happiness.

And again you miss the point. Not to worry - I’m here to help:

The Catholic Church practiced, condoned, and covered up the sexual abuse of children. In furtherance of this, they broke - institutionally - at least three commandments, dozens of other biblical structures, and who knows how many Church rules. It’s no good putting the blame on a few rogue priests, since the Church hierarchy was involved in the scandal root and branch.

And yet you have the bollocks to call this organization of kiddie fuckers ‘the one true church’, which I was taught in catechism class and Sunday school, means the Church was ‘ordained by God and sustained by the Holy Spirit’.

And yet you also claimed that the Church is for the good of mankind. This naturally leads to the question, ‘Why would God create an instrument of salvation that brutalizes children?’.

Laughable.

Boru

[Ravenshire]

Hell isn’t Fire, it’s choosing to deny oneself eternal happiness with God for short term pleasure.

Well, lets go pop open the Catechism of the Catholic Church and see what Holy Mother Church says.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."

I love it when the christers who visit here know less about their own religions than those who have none. 

[The Grand Nudger]

What reason do you think that is?

it wouldn’t make sense otherwise. 

What is "it"....?

Life is a struggle for everyone, but without a belief in God, it’s meaningless.

Here again, speak for yourself.  You manage to make a functionally identical claim rather than explain the previous claim.  Is this because you can't, or because you won't?

Do you know anyone who is happy?

Yeah.  Wait a minute, don't you?  

We all struggle with it. 

What sin are you presently struggling with?

[Barry]

Hell isn’t Fire, it’s choosing to deny oneself eternal happiness with God for short term pleasure.

Well, lets go pop open the Catechism of the Catholic Church and see what Holy Mother Church says.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."

you conveniently left out the bit about hell being “eternal separation from God” and ignored the apostrophes which show “eternal fire” is clearly a metaphor.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire." The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

[The Grand Nudger]

What's the problem? There are tons of people I'm separated from. Some on purpose. If we don't want to date your boyfriend that's cool, right? H's not going to get weird or anything, is he?