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Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
Gawdzilla Sama Offline
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 11:52 am
(November 10, 2023 at 11:42 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 11:30 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Are you stupid or just uneducated?

Neither. Religious art is literally not propaganda.

"GOD IS GREAT" is the propaganda message in religious art. Learn something.
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 11:59 am
(November 10, 2023 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 11:42 am)Ahriman Wrote: Neither. Religious art is literally not propaganda.

"GOD IS GREAT" is the propaganda message in religious art. Learn something.

Doesn't matter. Not propaganda.
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 12:16 pm
(November 10, 2023 at 11:44 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 11:25 am)Angrboda Wrote: How is it not propaganda?

It isn't being used to further some state agenda.

Furthering a state agenda isn't a part of the definition of propaganda.
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 12:16 pm (This post was last modified: November 10, 2023 at 12:17 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(November 10, 2023 at 6:16 am)Belacqua Wrote: Again, I typed earlier: "I'd say this is true of cultural products [which are atheist] from our own time. Recent novels, movies, etc., are unlikely to be religious unless they're specifically aimed at that market.

So one might say that modern religious art is driven not by spirituality but by money? Why would someone inspired by your god care at all about markets and so forth?

Real art doesn't worry about things like market. Real art happens because to the artist it must happen. Once you're worrying about markets, it's not art, it's a commodity.

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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 12:23 pm
(November 10, 2023 at 12:16 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 6:16 am)Belacqua Wrote: Again, I typed earlier: "I'd say this is true of cultural products [which are atheist] from our own time. Recent novels, movies, etc., are unlikely to be religious unless they're specifically aimed at that market.

So one might say that modern religious art is driven not by spirituality but by money? Why would someone inspired by your god care at all about markets and so forth?

Real art doesn't worry about things like market. Real art happens because to the artist it must happen. Once you're worrying about markets, it's not art, it's a commodity.

I painted a picture to impress a girl and it's a pretty good picture. Does my picture not count as art?
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November 10, 2023 at 12:46 pm
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 1:04 pm
(November 10, 2023 at 11:59 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "GOD IS GREAT" is the propaganda message in religious art. Learn something.

Doesn't matter. Not propaganda.

Define "propaganda" please.
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm (This post was last modified: November 10, 2023 at 1:14 pm by Ahriman.)
(November 10, 2023 at 1:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 11:59 am)Ahriman Wrote: Doesn't matter. Not propaganda.

Define "propaganda" please.

"Any art, literature, or music, produced or co-opted by the state, that is used for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 1:13 pm
(November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 1:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Define "propaganda" please.

"Any art, literature, or music produced or co-opted by the state for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."

Where did you get this definition?
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RE: Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist?
November 10, 2023 at 1:15 pm
(November 10, 2023 at 1:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(November 10, 2023 at 1:12 pm)Ahriman Wrote: "Any art, literature, or music produced or co-opted by the state for the purposes of furthering one or more state agendas."

Where did you get this definition?

Pulled it out of my butt. But I think it's a solid definition.
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