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Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
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They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: *
--------------------- *Big Bang Theory: Evolution of Our Universe - Universe Today
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
What would convince me that Jesus is real? People pray for peace, and then all wars in the world stop permanently. That good things happen exclusively to good people and bad things happen exclusively to bad people. That we see Christians moving mountains around with their faith, and they stop a hurricane with their faith. That a woman doesn't die in childbirth every two minutes as is the case now.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (January 14, 2024 at 12:20 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What would convince me that Jesus is real? People pray for peace, and then all wars in the world stop permanently. That good things happen exclusively to good people and bad things happen exclusively to bad people. That we see Christians moving mountains around with their faith, and they stop a hurricane with their faith. That a woman doesn't die in childbirth every two minutes as is the case now. What would Jesus have to do with any of that?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
  (January 14, 2024 at 12:00 am)snowtracks Wrote: They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: * Thankfully I know it was created by FSM. Thoughts and prayers RAmen
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
![[Image: s-l640.jpg]](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DjAAAOSwpIhe1HCM/s-l640.jpg) (January 14, 2024 at 1:31 am)Ahriman Wrote:(January 14, 2024 at 12:20 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What would convince me that Jesus is real? People pray for peace, and then all wars in the world stop permanently. That good things happen exclusively to good people and bad things happen exclusively to bad people. That we see Christians moving mountains around with their faith, and they stop a hurricane with their faith. That a woman doesn't die in childbirth every two minutes as is the case now. Well, if he is an omnipotent righteous god then it would be very easy for him to stop any war. Then there are also his claims that people who believe in him will be able to move mountains and stop storms.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(January 14, 2024 at 4:17 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(January 14, 2024 at 1:31 am)Ahriman Wrote: What would Jesus have to do with any of that? He might not be omnipotent. What would you think of Him if He couldn't stop wars from happening, but very much wanted to?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
 (January 14, 2024 at 12:00 am)snowtracks Wrote: They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: * I for one would not. If the universe was deliberately created, why would it necessarily be by God/Christ? It could just as easily have been created by alien beings, pan-dimensional mice, or the Great Green Arkleseizure. All names belong in the hat. Tangentially, I'm curious as to why you posted that link. It appears to be pretty supportive of a non-created or self-created universe. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
(January 14, 2024 at 5:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(January 14, 2024 at 12:00 am)snowtracks Wrote: They would be convinced if the universe was created. Ref: * Because it makes no sense and the universe is a fucked up holy fantasy made material? Quantum physics proves the universe to be an illogical entity. So illogical, in fact, that a partly human organism capable of walking on water might very well be responsible for the creation of the universe.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
(January 14, 2024 at 4:38 am)Ahriman Wrote: He might not be omnipotent. What would you think of Him if He couldn't stop wars from happening, but very much wanted to? The Christian god is supposed to be omnipotent, so your question is pointless.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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