50 years on death row

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Deesse23]

Kill him, or dont
but
dont wait for 50 effing years.

[Jackie]

[Ravenshire]

[Kitan Etos]

Either rehabilitation works or it does not. Dismissing its apparent success seems rather obtuse.

[brewer]

#1 B37, your intelligence is showing.

After 50 years just let him croak in prison. Stop any medical appointments, if they want him to die it's counter productive.

[Thumpalumpacus]

https://apnews.com/article/creech-idaho-...45fb6e5ebb

I'm not sure what I think of this. I'm generally against the death penalty anyway, but he is a serial killer, after all. But does his growing mellow with age justify the support mentioned in the article above? Another part of me eels that his 50 years behind bars is a fate worse than death anyway.

#1 2024 - 1981 is 41 years. 

Had you read the article, you'd know that he was placed on Death Row in 1975. I'm glad your arithmetic is better than your reading skill.

The potential risk of killing an innocent person is not worth the cost. Life in prison without parole can be reversed if an innocent person is convicted.

Agreed.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

https://apnews.com/article/creech-idaho-...45fb6e5ebb

I'm not sure what I think of this. I'm generally against the death penalty anyway, but he is a serial killer, after all. But does his growing mellow with age justify the support mentioned in the article above? Another part of me eels that his 50 years behind bars is a fate worse than death anyway.

#1 2024 - 1981 is 41 years. 

I am against the death penalty for the simple reason that the state can spend virtually indefinite money on prosecution but the accused are limited to mostly public defenders who do not have the time to mount a proper defense. But if one wants to talk about taxes. It costs far more in taxes to prosecute a death penalty case than to simply give them life without parole. 

5 convictions he certainly should never leave prison. I have no sympathy for him. But I am still against the death penalty. 

But for any others accused of a single death that could be anything from involuntary manslaughter but over charged, a poor person can be very easily railroaded by the system, or be so scared to falsely confess, which does happen. 

The potential risk of killing an innocent person is not worth the cost. Life in prison without parole can be reversed if an innocent person is convicted.

(Bold mine)

In this case, that doesn’t apply - Creech’s guilty is so firmly established that to doubt it would be perverse.

And he STILL shouldn’t be executed.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Honestly, his guilt for the shit they wanted to hang on him was never established in a way that to doubt it would be perverse. Pretty much exactly the opposite.

OTOH, as our legal system does in many cases, it is going to kill him to hold him accountable for other things that it could not credibly establish by referring to the one thing it can. The death of a fellow prisoner...which, generously, the us prison system gives no shits about.

In the end, just as you say, all of that is just inside ball. The state wont save anyone or save any money by killing him. There's no moral or practical cover to be had.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Honestly, his guilt for the shit they wanted to hang on him was never established in a way that to doubt it would be perverse.  Pretty much exactly the opposite.

OTOH, as our legal system does in many cases, it is going to kill him to hold him accountable for other things that it could not credibly establish by referring to the one thing it can.  The death of a fellow prisoner...which, generously, the us prison system gives no shits about.

In the end, just as you say, all of that is just inside ball.  The state wont save anyone or save any money by killing him.  There's no moral or practical cover to be had.

Really? Was there someone else suspected of killing David Jensen with a sock full of batteries?

Boru