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Do fish feel pain?

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Do fish feel pain?
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 6, 2024 at 2:27 pm
Perception is not always reality. We interpret a thrashing fish on land as feeling pain as it struggles to breathe, but we have to learn not to project based on sight alone.
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 6, 2024 at 5:52 pm
Fish don't exist
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 6, 2024 at 9:26 pm
I put in a call to Mr. Limpet a wildlife ofishal, he said he'd let minnow.
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 6, 2024 at 10:58 pm
Well, The Poet said "It's OK to eat fish cos they don't have feelings."



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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 6, 2024 at 11:29 pm
(March 6, 2024 at 8:03 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, I started this discussion about whether or not fish feel pain on Philosophical Vegan forum, and I got banned there. As I honestly want to know whether or not fish feel pain, I will start a discussion about it here. So, as far as I can tell, the arguments against fish feeling pain are:

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I was wondering what people on this forum think.

Let me hit you with one then I'll ask it and get back to you.
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 7, 2024 at 12:12 am
define “pain”
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 9, 2024 at 8:32 am
(March 7, 2024 at 12:12 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: define “pain”

I don't think that will extend the discussion in a productive way. We all know what "pain" means, and, for quite a lot of concepts (including "knowledge"), no philosopher has successfully defined them.
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 9, 2024 at 12:02 pm
(March 9, 2024 at 8:32 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(March 7, 2024 at 12:12 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: define “pain”

I don't think that will extend the discussion in a productive way. We all know what "pain" means, and, for quite a lot of concepts (including "knowledge"), no philosopher has successfully defined them.

So you want to discuss whether an organism is capable of experiencing a phenomenon you can't or won't define?

Don't be daft.
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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 9, 2024 at 12:26 pm
(March 9, 2024 at 12:02 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(March 9, 2024 at 8:32 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I don't think that will extend the discussion in a productive way. We all know what "pain" means, and, for quite a lot of concepts (including "knowledge"), no philosopher has successfully defined them.

So you want to discuss whether an organism is capable of experiencing a phenomenon you can't or won't define?

Don't be daft.

Yeah, that ship has sailed.

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RE: Do fish feel pain?
March 9, 2024 at 12:54 pm
Yes, they do.

Look up "nociceptors".

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