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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 3, 2024 at 5:08 pm
Same as God. Impossible to disprove but lacking a compelling reason to think it exists, I assume it does not.
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 3, 2024 at 5:54 pm
I understand why people could choose either.
We live struggling with choices and it feels as if those choices aren't predetermined even if they are.
I tend to veer towards everything being predetermined.
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 3, 2024 at 9:47 pm
I think it's fun and useful to pretend that we do.
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 3, 2024 at 9:57 pm
(August 3, 2024 at 9:47 pm)Jackalope Wrote: I think it's fun and useful to pretend that we do.
Pretending is what we do best. Pretend we're happy, pretend we have to work ourselves to death, pretend we can't change things for the better.
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 4, 2024 at 12:30 am
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I don't think everything would have to be predetermined for man to lack free will. We tend to think that everything isn't predetermined and toasters -still- don't have any free will, so it's not like there has to be something going on at the level of the universe in total for us to get something self-aggrandizingly wrong.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 4, 2024 at 7:12 am
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Duplicate post, more apologies, yada yada yada...
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RE: Do you believe in free will?
August 4, 2024 at 7:15 am
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I hold to a view called hard incompatabilism.
'Hard incompatibilism is a term coined by Derk Pereboom to designate the view that both determinism and indeterminism are incompatible with having free will and moral responsibility.'
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure