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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(Yesterday at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The more I watch events unfold, the more it appears that Trump's decisions almost invariably will result in more harm than benefit to America, and redound to the benefit of our two major competitors. This latest claim about Ukrainian negotiations, if it pans out as announced, will not only invite more Russian aggression, but Chinese as well. It appears we've elected a leveraged actor.

No need to ascribe malice or treachery when short sighted idiocy is reason enough. Though I admit that I wouldn't be overly surprised if orange fascist would be some kind of foreign asset - it's not like he have anything resembling principles.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(Yesterday at 11:44 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:
(Yesterday at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The more I watch events unfold, the more it appears that Trump's decisions almost invariably will result in more harm than benefit to America, and redound to the benefit of our two major competitors. This latest claim about Ukrainian negotiations, if it pans out as announced, will not only invite more Russian aggression, but Chinese as well. It appears we've elected a leveraged actor.

No need to ascribe malice or treachery when short sighted idiocy is reason enough. Though I admit that I wouldn't be overly surprised if orange fascist would be some kind of foreign asset - it's not like he have anything resembling principles.

And sometimes malice or treachery is brought on by short-sighted idiocy. I think that's the case here.

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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(Today at 12:08 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(Yesterday at 11:44 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: No need to ascribe malice or treachery when short sighted idiocy is reason enough. Though I admit that I wouldn't be overly surprised if orange fascist would be some kind of foreign asset - it's not like he have anything resembling principles.

And sometimes malice or treachery is brought on by short-sighted idiocy. I think that's the case here.

I'm leaning more toward him simply being an utter idiot.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(Today at 12:10 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:
(Today at 12:08 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And sometimes malice or treachery is brought on by short-sighted idiocy. I think that's the case here.

I'm leaning more toward him simply being an utter idiot.

I'm going with malicious, rapacious, and unburdened by conscience.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
I think 'useful idiot' would apply to him.
Trump, Vance and Voight are primarily running according to the Project 2025 plan developed by the Heritage Foundation.
The Heritage Foundation presents itself as an evangelical think tank, leading to fear of a possible theocracy, however the Heritage Foundation is a front for Koch Industries.
Koch Industries core business is oil refining and the general trend of the Trump admin is to remove all restriction on petrochemical use, (drill baby, drill) see the attacks vs. renewable energy, the promotion of plastic straws, etc. I'd tend to view the rest of it as essentially a month long gish gallop whiole Musk seems to be doing his own thing focussed on removing anyone who has, is or could investigate him.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(Today at 2:03 am)Jackalope Wrote:
(Today at 12:10 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: I'm leaning more toward him simply being an utter idiot.

I'm going with malicious, rapacious, and unburdened by conscience.

None of those qualities are mutually exclusive.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(11 hours ago)Mr Greene Wrote: Musk seems to be doing his own thing focussed on removing anyone who has, is or could investigate him.

I suspect he also wants to make sure the US maintains its ban on Chinese vehicles.

If BYD could sell in the US, no one would ever buy a Tesla again.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(11 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote:
(11 hours ago)Mr Greene Wrote: Musk seems to be doing his own thing focussed on removing anyone who has, is or could investigate him.

I suspect he also wants to make sure the US maintains its ban on Chinese vehicles.

If BYD could sell in the US, no one would ever buy a Tesla again.

BYD does sell in the US, just not passenger cars.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(11 hours ago)Belacqua Wrote:
(11 hours ago)Mr Greene Wrote: Musk seems to be doing his own thing focussed on removing anyone who has, is or could investigate him.

I suspect he also wants to make sure the US maintains its ban on Chinese vehicles.

If BYD could sell in the US, no one would ever buy a Tesla again.

I think that would be outside Musk's direct capability, at least via DOGE.
It would thus require keeping Trump et al onside. Not that Tesla will be going concern for much longer given current trajectory.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(11 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(Today at 2:03 am)Jackalope Wrote: I'm going with malicious, rapacious, and unburdened by conscience.

None of those qualities are mutually exclusive.

Boru

He did use "and". Smile

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