RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
Yesterday at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: Yesterday at 7:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(Yesterday at 11:32 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: We don’t really know what’s happening there. But in Iraq they gradually weakened the regime for decades with many bombing campaigns. Than they conquered the country in a week. Than they faced city guerrillas. Most US casualties resulted from these guerilla warfare phase.
I think this is still the only way to end whatever it is that is happening with Iran. But with Donald Trump we just don’t know. Why is it that we never know anything with this guy? Is it just a pure form of advanced narcissism or is there another unseen factor in this equation?
Incorrect. Ground forces had no trouble whatsoever with indigenous resistance, even...and perhaps especially... in the MOUT environment. Foreign mercenaries were the problem we struggled with...and mostly for reasons of our own legal structures - not that I would say we shouldn't have stuck to them...just as a point of clarity. The guerilla warfare phase of indigenous resistance was so marginal that our ROE did not allow us to shoot back at them even if they were shooting at us. It was the foreign mercenary phase that came later in which..while still adhereing to that restrictive indigenous ROE, caused us leadership to entertain extra-legal action....and, coincidentally, that's when joe sentiment turned sour.
Truth is, Mohamed J Urbanite doesn't even know how to begin to resist professional operators. If the thought to do so even crosses their mind...which it doesn't, btw, for better and for worse. At any rate, you never know anything with our mad king because his brain is fucking mush, and he was fundamentally unsuitable for the position before his brain became mush. If and insomuch as we have trouble in iran it's not because of the everyday citizen...it's the shahed drone program that matured over the course of the russo ukranian war (after the capture of one of our predators by iran back in the day) which we have not as of yet fully incorporated into our military doctrine. That's not guerrilla war, it's asymmetric state sanctioned. In the longer view of military history it's an improvement over g-war...because g-fighters can be heart-and-minded by sufficiently analogous, permissive, lethal, and indoctrinated operators....whereas a drone will never empathize with the OPFOR no matter how good a buddy we might be to the prospective guerrillas. As a quick reference for this dynamic look up how often russia uses Geran drones to kill russians on the front.
As a sideline/1000ftview comment....we may have reached the point in warfare and propagande where it's legitimately difficult to get people to kill other people for the usual reasons of states. Just like we've had to replace humans for robots on productions lines because people no longer give a shit about big business explanations for intentionally impoverishing them....... Every time I hear we've struck Iran..in the back of my mind, I realize we probably killed some guy who has a similar life experience to my own and who I would want to connect with to go out into the woods and get some rare fir seeds with. In another world, we'd be sharing a tent and a canteen. But we live in this world, the shittiest timeline.
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