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US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
#71
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
At least one Republian gets it:

Quote:Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) on Tuesday said Americans have every “right to be skeptical” about the U.S.-Israeli military operation in Iran.

Davidson responded to context given by CNN anchor Boris Sanchez about the “somewhat dubious, only at least on the surface” rationale that the administration provided after launching airstrikes on Saturday.

Sanchez named off the Pentagon’s assessment that Iran would not strike unless provoked, then the contradicting claims that Iran was close to developing a nuclear weapon.

“Well, look, I think the public’s right to be skeptical, and, frankly, that’s part of why President Trump’s, you know, ‘no new wars’ kind of campaign mindset resonated with the public,” Davidson replied. “You look at war-weary people who’ve seen just endless wars really in this century so far, post-9/11, the U.S. has kind of been in continual war.”

Davidson made similar comments in a separate CNN interview later Tuesday, where he questioned the Trump administration’s justification for the attack. He noted that he has asked for a classified briefing with administration officials before the strikes occurred to “define the mission in Iran.”

“And we‘re seeing that today with multiple definitions,” he told correspondent Kaitlan Collins.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/57668...kepticism/

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#72
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
Israel has announced they will carpet bomb a large part of Beirut, and that half a million people should evacuate immediately .
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#73
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 2:23 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Israel has announced they will carpet bomb a large part of Beirut, and that half a million people should evacuate immediately .

Murderers gonna murder. Public might not like this rogue state like it used to but it still is a case of tail wagging the dog and thus being safe from repercussions.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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#74
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 2:23 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Israel has announced they will carpet bomb a large part of Beirut, and that half a million people should evacuate immediately .

Is anyone surprised? Israel has made killing Arabs and other minorities for decades.

I look forward to the day we Americans no longer subsidize them for $3b/year. I don't want my tax money being used to support genocide.

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#75
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 2:41 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:
(March 5, 2026 at 2:23 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Israel has announced they will carpet bomb a large part of Beirut, and that half a million people should evacuate immediately .

Murderers gonna murder. Public might not like this rogue state like it used to but it still is a case of tail wagging the dog and thus being safe from repercussions.

Yes, the change in public opinion is maybe the only good thing to come out of this. I've seen opinion polls from America that indicate people are finally waking up.

Not that long ago, if you pointed out Israeli atrocities, people would just chant "HamAs!! haMaS!! HamAS!!!" As if that justified everything. Even though the atrocities began long before Hamas was formed and would be continuing even if it didn't exist. 

Even Israeli crimes in the West Bank, where Hamas has no political presence, were justified in this way. But a lot of people seem to be coming to their senses now.  

Naturally, the billionaires are fighting back. Larry Ellison, a rabid zionist, has bought a controlling stake in Paramount (of which CBS is a part). And by the end of this year will almost certainly get federal permission to buy Warner Brothers, which owns HBO Max and CNN. 

Ellison didn't buy TikTok directly, but owns enough of the company to influence its content.

Given the types of appointments he makes (e.g. Bari Weiss) it's clear that the zionist propaganda will be coming back hard and strong.
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#76
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 9:16 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Given the types of appointments he makes (e.g. Bari Weiss) it's clear that the zionist propaganda will be coming back hard and strong.

So there is a Jewish conspiracy shaping what people in the US are supposed to think.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#77
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 9:16 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(March 5, 2026 at 2:41 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: Murderers gonna murder. Public might not like this rogue state like it used to but it still is a case of tail wagging the dog and thus being safe from repercussions.

Yes, the change in public opinion is maybe the only good thing to come out of this. I've seen opinion polls from America that indicate people are finally waking up.

Not that long ago, if you pointed out Israeli atrocities, people would just chant "HamAs!! haMaS!! HamAS!!!" As if that justified everything. Even though the atrocities began long before Hamas was formed and would be continuing even if it didn't exist. 

Even Israeli crimes in the West Bank, where Hamas has no political presence, were justified in this way. But a lot of people seem to be coming to their senses now.  

Naturally, the billionaires are fighting back. Larry Ellison, a rabid zionist, has bought a controlling stake in Paramount (of which CBS is a part). And by the end of this year will almost certainly get federal permission to buy Warner Brothers, which owns HBO Max and CNN. 

Ellison didn't buy TikTok directly, but owns enough of the company to influence its content.

Given the types of appointments he makes (e.g. Bari Weiss) it's clear that the zionist propaganda will be coming back hard and strong.

As long as israel will be able to produce good products used for electronic surveillance (like Pegasus) it will continue to have defenders among governments I think. Public sympathy turned against it (at least from what I read) but in current era it does not mean that much - bots and propaganda can possibly revert the trend.

I hope I will see the day when this rogue state will be held responsible for all it crimes since Nakba but I doubt it will come in my lifetime.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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#78
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 11:50 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(March 5, 2026 at 9:16 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Given the types of appointments he makes (e.g. Bari Weiss) it's clear that the zionist propaganda will be coming back hard and strong.

So there is a Jewish conspiracy shaping what people in the US are supposed to think.

It need not be a conspiracy. Many in American governance automatically lean to pro-Israeli sentiment a priori. American media as well. Pro-Israeli sentiments sell well here.

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#79
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
Hegseth asked about Russia helping Iran to target Americans:

"We're not concerned about that... The only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're going to live."

A grotesquely indiscriminate threat against the entire Iranian population.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#80
RE: US Strikes on Iran (Operation Epic Fury)
(March 5, 2026 at 11:51 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: As long as israel will be able to produce good products used for electronic surveillance (like Pegasus) it will continue to have defenders among governments I think. Public sympathy turned against it (at least from what I read) but in current era it does not mean that much - bots and propaganda can possibly revert the trend.

I hope I will see the day when this rogue state will be held responsible for all it crimes since Nakba but I doubt it will come in my lifetime.

Israel will no doubt continue its atrocities as long as the US encourages them. 

It's often disappointing to see people condemning Israel's actions while denying that the US makes these actions possible through military, financial, and logistical support. And of course the US vetoes any UN declarations which oppose Israel's actions.

The State Department has just approved an emergency sale of weapons worth over $151 million. 

https://www.state.gov/israel-munitions-a...ns-support
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