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If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote:
(8 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: Using the word "semantic" doesn't erase your tu quoque fallacy.

Last chance. If you can't answer, we're done. I will no longer reply to you.

Lets say there are no gawds. The universe is just nature. That is all I'm commenting on. How do you establish that anything is objectively evil? What standard would you invoke?

There are no objective moral standards, full stop.

I had to dig it up, but this is an answer. Got it. So nothing is objectively evil. That means murder, rape, incest, religion is not objectively evil?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(3 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: ]

Yes. Do you reject pro-life morality?

Depends on the individual circumstance since allowing for a woman to choose a pro-life stance is included in the pro-choice stance. But pro-life all the time is rather extremist and unnecessary.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(3 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(4 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Correct.

Boru

So then nothing is evil. Not rape, not murder, not starting false religions, not conning people to donate for their fake god. So what are you doing here? Since nothing is wrong, then it's not wrong to pretend a deity exists and make people donate

Of course those things are evil, they’re just not objectively evil. What constitutes evil changes from culture to culture. For instance, the custom of expositio shocks us to our toes, but the Romans saw nothing wrong with it. To them, it was not only accepted, but was considered a moral duty.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(3 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(4 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote: There are no objective moral standards, full stop.

I had to dig it up, but this is an answer. Got it. So nothing is objectively evil. That means murder, rape, incest, religion is not objectively evil?

Attaboy!! You’re getting it.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(2 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(3 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: I had to dig it up, but this is an answer. Got it. So nothing is objectively evil. That means murder, rape, incest, religion is not objectively evil?

Attaboy!! You’re getting it.

Boru

So rape is not actually wrong. Is that how you live your life?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(2 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Attaboy!! You’re getting it.

Boru

So rape is not actually wrong. Is that how you live your life?

Of course it’s actually wrong. What’s the matter with you??

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
You didn’t uncover anything; you were given the answers on the very first page. But again your response is nonsense ...lol 
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(2 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: So rape is not actually wrong. Is that how you live your life?

Of course it’s actually wrong. What’s the matter with you??

Boru

how is it wrong if there's no objective morality? What's your definition of objective morality?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(4 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote: I for my part ground my morals on human well being 
This is the only thing you said that's not a red herring and that's relevant to the topic I brought up.

What if some group doesn't care about human well-being? They believe humans are awful and want to destroy them all except themselves so they can let animals rule. Are they required by some universal law to check with you first to see if it's right or wrong? Should they care about what anyone outside their group thinks? What law of the universe are they breaking?

You dont agree with me? I see now why you have problems with the baby killing thing....
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(2 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Attaboy!! You’re getting it.

Boru

So rape is not actually wrong. Is that how you live your life?
Looks like we need to make it clear to the children in the room: Everybody on this forum, every single one is raping as much as they want, day and night, 24/7 365.
What about you? How often do you need to go to church or read the Bible (lets say per week) to not go out and rape and kill babies?

Disclaimer: I already told you, boy, pay attention to which passages of the Bible you actually read. Its improtant. Trust me!
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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