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If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
No no you see without magically asserted invisible sky wizard ....... Hehe
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(5 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it’s actually wrong. What’s the matter with you??

Boru

how is it wrong if there's no objective morality? What's your definition of objective morality?

It is wrong because in this time, place, and culture it is subjectively wrong.

Objective morality is moral behaviour that is viewed the same in all times and in all places (disclaimer: this is the practical definition, not the philosophical one).

Boru
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(5 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it’s actually wrong. What’s the matter with you??

Boru

how is it wrong if there's no objective morality? What's your definition of objective morality?
Do you not have a general consideration for fellow humans?,or do you walk around with your fists clenched because you want to go on a rape spree oh so badly, but that meddling Christian God and his holy book are thwarting you?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(6 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(6 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote: Do you really dismiss subjective morality so easily?!?

Yes. Do you reject pro-life morality?

I reject anything that increases suffering in the world, and the pro-life agenda does exactly that.

You seem to be equating a lack of objective morality with a lack of morality. That a pretty fucking big non sequitur.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(5 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote:
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: So rape is not actually wrong. Is that how you live your life?
Looks like we need to make it clear to the children in the room: Everybody on this forum, every single one is raping as much as they want, day and night, 24/7 365.
What about you? How often do you need to go to church or read the Bible (lets say per week) to not go out and rape and kill babies?

Disclaimer: I already told you, boy, pay attention to which passages of the Bible you actually read. Its improtant. Trust me!

And now you're ignored. Don't bother
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: how is it wrong if there's no objective morality? What's your definition of objective morality?

It is wrong because in this time, place, and culture it is subjectively wrong.

Objective morality is moral behaviour that is viewed the same in all times and in all places (disclaimer: this is the practical definition, not the philosophical one).

Boru

So in a morality where rape is okay, then its fine since it's subjectively fine?
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(6 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote: There are no objective moral standards, full stop.

I had to dig it up, but this is an answer. Got it. So nothing is objectively evil. That means murder, rape, incest, religion is not objectively evil?

Evil is a construct of the church. A tool to manipulate fools like you.

Of course all those things you listed are bad and wrong, subjectively.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: how is it wrong if there's no objective morality? What's your definition of objective morality?
Do you not have a general consideration for fellow humans?,or do you walk around with your fists clenched because you want to go on a rape spree oh so badly, but that meddling Christian God and his holy book are thwarting you?

stupid answer. It's evades the question. Next one and I'm dismissing you for future replies
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(5 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote: Looks like we need to make it clear to the children in the room: Everybody on this forum, every single one is raping as much as they want, day and night, 24/7 365.
What about you? How often do you need to go to church or read the Bible (lets say per week) to not go out and rape and kill babies?

Disclaimer: I already told you, boy, pay attention to which passages of the Bible you actually read. Its improtant. Trust me!

And now you're ignored. Don't bother

Coward.
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RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(4 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote:
(5 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: I had to dig it up, but this is an answer. Got it. So nothing is objectively evil. That means murder, rape, incest, religion is not objectively evil?

Evil is a construct of the church. A tool to manipulate fools like you.

Of course all those things you listed are bad and wrong, subjectively.

Do you understand that subjective just mean to you? So it's wrong to you. But many things are wrong to some, while fine for others. For example, some people think capital punishment is immoral. Others think it's highly moral. Who's right?
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