If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong

[The Architect Of Fate]

In what moral universe are lions judged ?

[Sheldon]

Remember when a fringe conservative group didn't like the law of abortion being legal? Tell me, shouldn't you have respected the legal abortion law as you're telling me to do now that the pro-life movement only benefits to harm others?

I'm pro-choice, and that's a tu quoque fallacy. You're ignored

So if a law is passed that makes it illegal, you'd have to change position no? According to the bible and the 6th commandment, since you believe this is an objective moral absolute.

[Sheldon]

In what moral universe are lions judged ?

In a universe with objective moral absolutes?

[Sheldon]

A lion is not held culpable by humans to the same standard

Who made up this rule?

Humans clearly, human laws are not applied to lions are they? Ipso facto: we don't hold them to the same moral standard. I explained this already when you asked:

AngelThMan Wrote:
Who made up this standard? Is it just your opinion? Or is it a fact of reality? If it is, show me how.

HERE is my original answer to that questio

Sheldon Wrote:

A lion is not held culpable by humans to the same standard,  as it can't be made to understand human morality, we even apply this to humans, where sentencing judges recognise diminished responsibility and therefore culpability. Why would we give a deity a pass, especially one claimed to have limitless choice, even as a hypothetical?

It follows we would hold a such a deity, "if it existed", to a higher not lower moral standard. You keep failing to understand that for the word morality to make any sense, it must involve choice. Ipso facto: the less choice the less culpable, the more choice the more culpable.

[The Architect Of Fate]

God is sending the lions to hell ....lol

[Sheldon]

God is sending the lions to hell ....lol

It's actually an interesting and salient point, if morality is as the op is claiming, an objective absolute then why wouldn't it apply to all conscious animals, all animals that have evolved to live in societal groups exhibit moral behaviour after all?

[The Architect Of Fate]

If animals were judged on moral behavior, then killer whales and pelicans would be in serious trouble.

[Kitan Etos]

The irony being the theistic lack of conscience as the animal kingdom seems to be devoid of.

[Nay_Sayer]

I'm now invested in this like a gameshow to see if angry angel (AA) ends up ignoring everyone.

Which makes you wonder he wouldn't just opt for an exho chamber.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I'm not invested in this like a gameshow to see if angry angel (AA) ends up ignoring everyone.

Which makes you wonder he wouldn't just opt for an exho chamber.

AI told him too and he accepts whatever AI says ....lol