Man beheads woman in supermarket shouts 'god is on earth'

[downbeatplumb]

Have you ever noticed that when people do this fucked up shit they never yell things like "Darwin was right!" or "Dawkins is the Messiah!!"

It's always for god........

To be fair there are other times people yell out to god and not dawkins...........I'm thinking of sex here.

[Autumnlicious]

Oh good.

"A 28-year-old homeless Bulgarian man with a police record was arrested after he allegedly fled the Valdes shopping centre. The suspect, named in reports as Deyan Valentinov, allegedly made off along Avenida Juan Carlos saying: "God is on earth.""

Implies to me that he managed to get away. If this isn't the case, then maybe there is a little hope for when the aliens come and flay people in brutal and unnecessarily violent/cruel ways ^_^

It's incredibly easy to stab someone, especially when they're utterly unawares of your intentions and you're in a frenzy. It only took a few minutes for a deranged motherfucker on some Greyhound bus to sever another guy's head like a year ago.

And with a decent blade and simply whirling around, most people won't even try charging you. After all, who wants to be next?

Shock and revulsion over a sudden jet of gore spilled everywhere is an excellent way to paralyze the opposition as well.

What a vile piece of shit....

[Cinjin]

How does someone manage to stab another person *14* times in the neck in a *supermarket*?

It would only take 5 to 7 seconds at the most to stab a person 14 times. No one in a supermarket is going to have reaction time faster than that. Besides if I happened accross an individual who had a human head in his hands that he himself had just REMOVED from it's prior owner ... I wouldn't be the one volunteering to take him down first.


EDIT: Looks like I should've waited just a couple minutes longer to read Syn's post. Doh!

[frankiej]

I wont beheading to Tenerife anytime soon

[Violet]

When the Aliens come? We They are already here....

I mean the likes of those unlike us, Jack.

[Shell B]

How does someone manage to stab another person *14* times in the neck in a *supermarket*?

I feel shitty saying it, but if I was in the supermarket with kids, which I usually am because I have nieces, nephews and a stepson, and that happened, I would probably have left and called the cops. Chances are, she was dead within the first few stabs. There are an awful lot of ways to die by getting stabbed in the neck, arteries, airways and your spinal column don't leave many chances for survival. That totally sucks, though. Unfortunately, Monsieur Crazy Person probably thought he was doing the right thing. Insanity is a scary thing.

[Violet]

Oh good.

"A 28-year-old homeless Bulgarian man with a police record was arrested after he allegedly fled the Valdes shopping centre. The suspect, named in reports as Deyan Valentinov, allegedly made off along Avenida Juan Carlos saying: "God is on earth.""

Implies to me that he managed to get away. If this isn't the case, then maybe there is a little hope for when the aliens come and flay people in brutal and unnecessarily violent/cruel ways ^_^

It's incredibly easy to stab someone, especially when they're utterly unawares of your intentions and you're in a frenzy. It only took a few minutes for a deranged motherfucker on some Greyhound bus to sever another guy's head like a year ago.

And with a decent blade and simply whirling around, most people won't even try charging you. After all, who wants to be next?

Shock and revulsion over a sudden jet of gore spilled everywhere is an excellent way to paralyze the opposition as well.

What a vile piece of shit....

The article makes it sound like it was done in seconds, and as incredibly easy as it is to stab someone: it's really hard to cut through bone. Hence I can understand severing a head in a minute or so, but not in 14 swift stabs in and out.

I would be charging right in. I will be cut, probably painfully, at lest once. A crazy person with a knife is a threat that needs to be neutralized immediately.

Revulsion I can understand, so long as it doesn't get in the way of getting the job done.

I agree that he is a vile piece of shit, but I also think that the implied timeframe is swifter than is particularly realistic.

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How does someone manage to stab another person *14* times in the neck in a *supermarket*?

I feel shitty saying it, but if I was in the supermarket with kids, which I usually am because I have nieces, nephews and a stepson, and that happened, I would probably have left and called the cops. Chances are, she was dead within the first few stabs. There are an awful lot of ways to die by getting stabbed in the neck, arteries, airways and your spinal column don't leave many chances for survival. That totally sucks, though. Unfortunately, Monsieur Crazy Person probably thought he was doing the right thing. Insanity is a scary thing.

I agree that there was no chance of saving her... but while a crazy person is busy stabbing a corpse further is the perfect window of opportunity to disarm it or otherwise neutralize it. I suggest leaving and calling the cops is wasting too many valuable seconds, but I understand the behavior from those that are not prepared to engage an unexpected enemy immediately, as they would probably just get themselves killed.

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How does someone manage to stab another person *14* times in the neck in a *supermarket*?

It would only take 5 to 7 seconds at the most to stab a person 14 times. No one in a supermarket is going to have reaction time faster than that. Besides if I happened accross an individual who had a human head in his hands that he himself had just REMOVED from it's prior owner ... I wouldn't be the one volunteering to take him down first.


EDIT: Looks like I should've waited just a couple minutes longer to read Syn's post. Doh!

More likely 8-11... otherwise you're making a stab inside of half a second repeatedly. One can scarcely move their arm that fast *without* the resistance of the weight in the knife, the impact, and the meat/bone. And pulling a butcher knife out isn't the easiest thing in the world either.

If you're in a supermarket in alaska, chances are there are some of the people in there are armed with a loaded gun, and chances are that person with said gun is or has been military at some point You might not be the one volunteering to take such a creature down... but then you aren't everyone

[reverendjeremiah]

To be fair, I don't think we can pin this horrendous act on religion or religious thought but instead solely on the fact that this man is utterly and completely insane!

I agree almost 100% with that statement. I think that him holding his delusional god beliefs along with being EXTRA delusional didnt help... but no, religion in and of itself cannot be blamed for this.

That poor woman.

[Shell B]

I agree that there was no chance of saving her... but while a crazy person is busy stabbing a corpse further is the perfect window of opportunity to disarm it or otherwise neutralize it.

Perhaps, but how often do you hear of someone escaping the clutches of a madman? Not as often as you hear about someone being murdered by one. The thing is, "neutralizing" someone who has a knife is not as easy as you make it sound, especially if the guy has crazy strength. I don't know about in Alaska, but we don't have local ninjas wondering around the grocery store. The safest bet would be to have a group of people ambush him. That would take too long to organize. Either way, the lady was dead.

I suggest leaving and calling the cops is wasting too many valuable seconds, but I understand the behavior from those that are not prepared to engage an unexpected enemy immediately, as they would probably just get themselves killed.

Engage an unexpected enemy? It seems to me he had only one enemy in that grocery store. Unless he started stabbing me or I was armed and could help, I would not engage anyone. I do not fancy myself a traveling hero or ninja. Sometimes, barging in and jumping on a dude like it is a fucking video game is not the smartest thing to do. Besides, most of the people in the store were likely women and children.

[Cinjin]

More likely 8-11... otherwise you're making a stab inside of half a second repeatedly. One can scarcely move their arm that fast *without* the resistance of the weight in the knife, the impact, and the meat/bone. And pulling a butcher knife out isn't the easiest thing in the world either.

If you're in a supermarket in alaska, chances are there are some of the people in there are armed with a loaded gun, and chances are that person with said gun is or has been military at some point You might not be the one volunteering to take such a creature down... but then you aren't everyone

well hold on now ... I said I wouldn't get involved but thats because I have to assume that I would be unarmed (as I imagine 99% of American's are unarmed while grocey shopping). However, you give me a 45 cal. Smith & Wesson, I'll be the first one to put a round in that douchebag's left eye socket.

But I stand where I was before. I'm not going to be the dipshit that gets himself cut up by a knife wielding religious nutbag because of some misguided sense of heroism.