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Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
If you are unwilling to consider that your initial presuppositions might be wrong then there is no discussion to be had as you said.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
(June 14, 2011 at 8:45 pm)eric209 Wrote: If you are unwilling to consider that your initial presuppositions might be wrong then there is no discussion to be had as you said.

Ah, but you did not answer my question. If the Bible was inerrant, then how could you possibly disprove it when all the sources you are trying to use are not inerrant?

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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
Your asking me to answer an illogical question. You may as well as "If you were a female how could i prove you were a male?"
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
(June 14, 2011 at 9:37 pm)eric209 Wrote: Your asking me to answer an illogical question. You may as well as "If you were a female how could i prove you were a male?"

What? It's not illogical at all, suppose the Bible really is inerrant, how would you prove it was not? You claim to have already done so, but you have only used sources that are errant.

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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
You are being illogical. See Special pleading
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
(June 15, 2011 at 2:16 pm)eric209 Wrote: You are being illogical. See Special pleading

You are dodging the question. If you can't give me a good way to test whether scripture is inerrant then I can't accept your claims that it is not inerrant.

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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
You can also look at the fallacies of Begging the question and Circular logic. I cannot answer an illogical question logically.

You are using special pleading to argue that you have the only source of inerrant knowledge. You are also claiming that the source of its inerrancy comes from the same source which is circular logic. Then you are begging the question by assuming the inerrancy of the source in the premise of the question.

If you wish to provide a question that is logical and not loaded I will do my very best to answer it.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
(June 15, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:
(June 15, 2011 at 2:16 pm)eric209 Wrote: You are being illogical. See Special pleading

You are dodging the question. If you can't give me a good way to test whether scripture is inerrant then I can't accept your claims that it is not inerrant.

I'm joining this conversation late. Have we already reviewed the contradictions of the Bible (some 350 different issues on which the Bible contradicts itself)? How about where the Bible contradicts even the most remedial knowledge of science?
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"So again, I presuppose scripture is the ultimate standard of truth." - Statler Waldorf <-- I cant help you here.
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