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Poll: (Be honest and Vote) I personally feel that homosexuals ...
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are kinda weird, but as long as they're not too flagrant about it - I don't mind.
6.98%
3 6.98%
are living a life of sin and are an abomination according to the written words of my god.
2.33%
1 2.33%
are normal people who deserve all the rights I afford myself.
90.70%
39 90.70%
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Pray Away the Gay
#21
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(June 7, 2011 at 2:15 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Homosexual women are fine with me, as they will have sex with me. But homosexual men and straight women absolutely must make an exception in their rulebook for me if they wish for me to respect them as a normal human with any sort of libido Heart



Ah, yes...as in this scene from Woody Allen's Love and Death.

Boris: Sonja, do you even know what love means?

Sonja: There are many different kinds of love, Boris.

There's love between a man and a woman.

Love between a mother and a son.


Boris: Two women. Let's not forget my favorite.


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#22
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I think there are far weirder things than homosexuality. Eating eggs for instance. I mean, that's just disgusting and unnatural. Anybody who does that is a morally twisted degenerate. Tongue
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#23
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(June 7, 2011 at 6:31 am)frankiej Wrote:


I passed this one earlier in my bible.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

I am assuming that denial of entry to the kingdom of God pretty much means you are damned.

And to follow up with another from leviticus:

Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads".

But of course you don't know of a place in scripture that condemns them, so I suppose this does not matter then.

You should read my post more carefully, those verses do not give me the right to condemn gays, if you will read the verses very carefully you might see that this is God's right.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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(June 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: You should read my post more carefully, those verses do not give me the right to condemn gays, if you will read the verses very carefully you might see that this is God's right.

Ah, the good old Christian excuse to hate. I don't hate homosexuals, God hates homosexuals. I've never understood what the big deal about homosexuality is. I wouldn't want anyone judging me soley on who I have sex with so I'm not going to judge back.
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#25
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(June 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm)Godschild Wrote:


You should read my post more carefully, those verses do not give me the right to condemn gays, if you will read the verses very carefully you might see that this is God's right.


Really? Because it wasn't God who wrote this... So to be honest I don't think you can really say that...

I think God might be illiterate.
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#26
RE: Pray Away the Gay
First of all I'm not looking for points that's no way to live a life, second I'm not hideing any hatred for gays, my christian ethics are to love all people.
#1 Yes, I'm correct in what I say, as far as I know God has given me no rights to condemn gays. That is God's right because He is the creator. Why don't you throw out the verse?
#2 If you are implying that God created them as gays I'm going to have to disagree with you, there is scripture to what I say, such as God created men and women for each other not man for man and woman for woman. You must realize that God hates their actions and the thoughts of their hearts, He does not hate them.
#3 Again I'm correct in what I've said, God calls it unnatural and I see it the same so I can not see allowing gays to marry. This is how I view this, you must have a license to operate a automobile, a license to be a doctor or nurse, a license to build a home, a license to own a business and ect. these are all privileges and the same applies to marriage and most people in this country do not see that gays should have this privilege and neither does God. As for all the above privileges and more gays are able to have them and be a productive part of our society.
Your right I could have chosen #2 but that doesn't tell everything I feel. Even though I would feel uncomfortable I would welcome gays into my church, not as members that would be against God's will, it is a right they all have just as it's my right, given to us by our constitution.

(June 7, 2011 at 3:18 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:
(June 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: You should read my post more carefully, those verses do not give me the right to condemn gays, if you will read the verses very carefully you might see that this is God's right.

Ah, the good old Christian excuse to hate. I don't hate homosexuals, God hates homosexuals. I've never understood what the big deal about homosexuality is. I wouldn't want anyone judging me soley on who I have sex with so I'm not going to judge back.

I did not say that I or God hates gays, it is the sexual act and thoughts of the heart that God condemns.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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(June 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: #1 Yes, I'm correct in what I say, as far as I know God has given me no rights to condemn gays. That is God's right because He is the creator. Why don't you throw out the verse?

How about we just throw out the whole damn book and call it good?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#28
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To be honest, I am not really sure what to say to this other than you are mad... but thats not enough for my lking Wink

"thoughts of the heart"??? eh? Basically he condemns some cases of natural attraction... Which surely he put there... God, you are some cunt, huh.
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#29
RE: Pray Away the Gay
(June 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: I did not say that I or God hates gays, it is the sexual act and thoughts of the heart that God condemns.

So he doesn't hate gays, he's just going to send them to burn in eternal fire for acting the way he made them. Sounds like hate to me.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#30
RE: Pray Away the Gay
(June 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(June 7, 2011 at 4:55 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote:


First of all I'm not looking for points that's no way to live a life, second I'm not hideing any hatred for gays, my christian ethics are to love all people.
#1 Yes, I'm correct in what I say, as far as I know God has given me no rights to condemn gays. That is God's right because He is the creator. Why don't you throw out the verse?
#2 If you are implying that God created them as gays I'm going to have to disagree with you, there is scripture to what I say, such as God created men and women for each other not man for man and woman for woman. You must realize that God hates their actions and the thoughts of their hearts, He does not hate them.
#3 Again I'm correct in what I've said, God calls it unnatural and I see it the same so I can not see allowing gays to marry. This is how I view this, you must have a license to operate a automobile, a license to be a doctor or nurse, a license to build a home, a license to own a business and ect. these are all privileges and the same applies to marriage and most people in this country do not see that gays should have this privilege and neither does God. As for all the above privileges and more gays are able to have them and be a productive part of our society.
Your right I could have chosen #2 but that doesn't tell everything I feel. Even though I would feel uncomfortable I would welcome gays into my church, not as members that would be against God's will, it is a right they all have just as it's my right, given to us by our constitution.

The verse is Leviticus 20:13 ...they must be put to death ... Killing someone is condemning them. You see, your god did indeed give you the right to condemn them.
That's not exactly what I was addressing though. I addressed YOUR views, not the Bible's per say. You still did not address (explain) any of the contradictions that you initially made. In fact, you have only bolstered those contradictions with this reply.

Do you understand? You can't have it both ways, and if you'll read my hidden remarks above, you seem to want it both ways. Either your god loves homosexuals and allows them into heaven or he hates them and condemns them to hell.
It would be a far more respectable action for you to just pick a side instead of all this contradictory rhetoric. "Gays should have all rights ... Gays shouldn't have the right to get married" You See??

Thinking


on a side note: I find it interesting that none of the Muslims on our forum have cast a vote in the poll.

I kinda get it though ... It's gotta suck to be embarrassed of the bigotry your religion openly touts for other peoples.

It's difficult to sell god's love when the book He wrote tells you to kill gay people.
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