Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?

[Epimethean]

You need to use a real dictionary to understand the etymology. Try the O.E.D.

[Andrastos]

It is in the bible? You are reading it in Greek? Careful there.

If you really want to start getting tech Terms for words, I really REALLY suggest you read this!

Very VERY interesting!

Actually if you want or desire amo for debates with Christians you will find a lot here!

http://www.rense.com/general71/defmo.htm

[Skipper]

Like the wright brothers, based upon what they had faith in was possible! Changed the way we live! Despite all the ridicule they received, it is their faith that pushed them forward, and now look we have an Airbus A380F, just because 2 men had faith

You don't have to have faith in scientifically demonstrable, repeatable actions. There is no faith in flying. When I get on a plane I don't need faith. I just need a ticket.

When you drop a ball, do you need faith that it will hit the ground?

Faith only comes into the picture when we are talking about things that can't be shown, proven or demonstrated. Such as gods, fairies, unicorns or whatever brand of make believe you choose to have faith in.

So you have no faith in yourself to do anything at all?

I had a slightly greater faith in humanity before talking to you.

[Ryft]

There are two things that dumbfound me: (1) that I read this whole thing, and (2) that people can find the patience to keep replying to this lunatic. ASIDE FROM the absolutely incoherent twaddle Andrastos is infecting the forums with, it is hard to take someone seriously who uses exclamation points in almost every single sentence. I am leaving this thread forever, before I end up having to stab myself in the eyes to make the pain stop.

My spelling is shit house hey, always hated school!

That says it all. Thank you.

I never thought that there would be a brand of Christianity that rips off Plato's Symposium.

This is not even close to "a brand of Christianity."

I'm not sure if you're just as crazy as, Statler or more. What do you lot think? As crazy or more?

This guy makes Statler look positively sane.

[Cinjin]

If you are using your logic to keep your emotions in check as you say, why is it you are constantly abusing me, following me on other threads and bad mouthing me there too?

Following you?? You should be so lucky ... don't flatter yourself. You created a thread in a public debate forum. I disagree with the topic statement, thus, here I am. Bad mouthing you and your ridiculous statements has nothing to do with my emotions. It solely has to do with my total lack of respect for you. You come on this site, claim no ties to a specific religion and then start preaching the love of jesus. To quote your bible - you're reaping what you sow pal.

You actually just explained yourself! Do you understand what I’m saying, can you see that? I feel that you’re making a mistake by abusing me actually!
You actually contradicted yourself by your words V’s actions, what your saying is one thing and what your doing is another!

No, I'm not. Read it again. You have missed the entire point. This has nothing to do with my emotions. You said, FAITH is a powerful emotion. Thus we can all conclude that your god is simply a result of how you FEEL. The rest of this bull shit about my emotions is just an artful dodge. Plus, if you consider the mild insults I've thrown as an attack, you clearly haven't seen anything on this site.

Unless it is logical to insult people!
Is it logical to insult people?

Yes, is is logical to insult someone. If someone says stupid things all the time, it does indeed make sense that they would be mocked for it. That is a logical step.

Do you trust your anger? More than Love?

I trust them equally - I also distrust them equally. Love is no more trustworthy than Anger, both can easily deceive an unchecked mind.

The emotion I trust is Love!

Yes ... kind of my whole point and problem with your "rationalizing" of Faith.

I could make a list of all your insults, but I want!

Please feel free. I would be honored.

The hardest part I found was actually being honest to myself!
Where do these insults come from and why do you feel like insulting me?

Your ideas are illogical, irrational and simply put - stupid, but what bugs me the most is that you lied in your very first post. Therefore, you won't be getting a pass from me on any level. Claiming that you have no religious ties. Obvious bull shit. You most certainly are a christian and you most certainly do love to preach. It's very likely you nearly got yourself kicked off the site but you've managed to dial it back a bit and here you remain.

It's not a matter of "keeping them in check" actually, what I’m suggesting is to take responsibility for one’s own emotions, feel it and allow it to be felt entirely! Not project and express them to others! Unless it is of Love compassion kindness!

And of course in your case, expressing them to others is ALWAYS out of love compassion and kindness! You arrogant bastard.

If one supresses it (keep it in check) it will remain inside of you, until it's experienced! If a man has a lot of supressed anger, grief than they will look at everything in an angry way, until they feel and realise the emotion in a controlled environment! The more anger in the soul the more angry that person will be! Furthermore the more you express it to others the more karma that person will receive and so actually degrade his own soul condition even further!
Why are there so many grumpy old people? Because they choose to supress there emotion all their life!
Emotion has substance, energetically so, this substance is in the Soul until it is released!

Just you making shit up on the fly again. You even threw Karma in there. That entire thought has no ramifications to my point whatsoever. PID issued.

Why don't I get really angry back? One I’m an living example of what I'm talking about, but I still feel anger at time and when I do I release it, also I don't express it to others because I don't feel I need to fight back as I know karma is already serving justice in its own law!

Law of compensation (karma) (reap what you sow) is a beautiful law once understood! No matter what someone does to you one can be sure that karma will take care of any injustices for you! No need to fight back! Or feel revengeful, that person will get their own back in due good time Just need to feel the emotions that person created if they arise at all!

Your point? You still have not even attempted to address my remarks about your silly ideas of faith.

Humble person = somebody that takes full responsibility for all of their own emotions!

Yet another worthless, made-up on the fly, stupid non-sequitur.

Humble: not proud or arrogant; modest. Low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly.

Being humble has NOTHING to do with taking responsibility for one's emotions. You do attempt to think before you speak right?

Gods Laws take care of everything else, it's perfect really, and I'm still trying to get my head around perfect, it's so perfect it beyond explanation!

How convenient for you that "God's Laws" are beyond explanation. You are a massive tool.

[Andrastos]

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If you are using your logic to keep your emotions in check as you say, why is it you are constantly abusing me, following me on other threads and bad mouthing me there too?

Following you?? You should be so lucky ... don't flatter yourself. You created a thread in a public debate forum. I disagree with the topic statement, thus, here I am. Bad mouthing you and your ridiculous statements has nothing to do with my emotions. It solely has to do with my total lack of respect for you. You come on this site, claim no ties to a specific religion and then start preaching the love of jesus. To quote your bible - you're reaping what you sow pal.

You actually just explained yourself! Do you understand what I’m saying, can you see that? I feel that you’re making a mistake by abusing me actually!
You actually contradicted yourself by your words V’s actions, what your saying is one thing and what your doing is another!

No, I'm not. Read it again. You have missed the entire point. This has nothing to do with my emotions. You said, FAITH is a powerful emotion. Thus we can all conclude that your god is simply a result of how you FEEL. The rest of this bull shit about my emotions is just an artful dodge. Plus, if you consider the mild insults I've thrown as an attack, you clearly haven't seen anything on this site.

Unless it is logical to insult people!
Is it logical to insult people?

Yes, is is logical to insult someone. If someone says stupid things all the time, it does indeed make sense that they would be mocked for it. That is a logical step.

Do you trust your anger? More than Love?

I trust them equally - I also distrust them equally. Love is no more trustworthy than Anger, both can easily deceive an unchecked mind.

The emotion I trust is Love!

Yes ... kind of my whole point and problem with your "rationalizing" of Faith.

I could make a list of all your insults, but I want!

Please feel free. I would be honored.

The hardest part I found was actually being honest to myself!
Where do these insults come from and why do you feel like insulting me?

Your ideas are illogical, irrational and simply put - stupid, but what bugs me the most is that you lied in your very first post. Therefore, you won't be getting a pass from me on any level. Claiming that you have no religious ties. Obvious bull shit. You most certainly are a christian and you most certainly do love to preach. It's very likely you nearly got yourself kicked off the site but you've managed to dial it back a bit and here you remain.

It's not a matter of "keeping them in check" actually, what I’m suggesting is to take responsibility for one’s own emotions, feel it and allow it to be felt entirely! Not project and express them to others! Unless it is of Love compassion kindness!

And of course in your case, expressing them to others is ALWAYS out of love compassion and kindness! You arrogant bastard.

If one supresses it (keep it in check) it will remain inside of you, until it's experienced! If a man has a lot of supressed anger, grief than they will look at everything in an angry way, until they feel and realise the emotion in a controlled environment! The more anger in the soul the more angry that person will be! Furthermore the more you express it to others the more karma that person will receive and so actually degrade his own soul condition even further!
Why are there so many grumpy old people? Because they choose to supress there emotion all their life!
Emotion has substance, energetically so, this substance is in the Soul until it is released!

Just you making shit up on the fly again. You even threw Karma in there. That entire thought has no ramifications to my point whatsoever. PID issued.

Why don't I get really angry back? One I’m an living example of what I'm talking about, but I still feel anger at time and when I do I release it, also I don't express it to others because I don't feel I need to fight back as I know karma is already serving justice in its own law!

Law of compensation (karma) (reap what you sow) is a beautiful law once understood! No matter what someone does to you one can be sure that karma will take care of any injustices for you! No need to fight back! Or feel revengeful, that person will get their own back in due good time Just need to feel the emotions that person created if they arise at all!

Your point? You still have not even attempted to address my remarks about your silly ideas of faith.

Humble person = somebody that takes full responsibility for all of their own emotions!

Yet another worthless, made-up on the fly, stupid non-sequitur.

Humble: not proud or arrogant; modest. Low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly.

Being humble has NOTHING to do with taking responsibility for one's emotions. You do attempt to think before you speak right?

Gods Laws take care of everything else, it's perfect really, and I'm still trying to get my head around perfect, it's so perfect it beyond explanation!

How convenient for you that "God's Laws" are beyond explanation. You are a massive tool.

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Cinjin We will just have to agree to disagree!

I'm offering an insight into a whole different aspect of reality, some fresh and never considered possibilities! That is all. We live in an infinite universes with infinite possibilities! I stand by my beliefs as much as you do yours! My beliefs are my birth right, as to is yours!

Please consider moving on!

I have no more time for you and any of your statements, questions or comments will go unanswered!

Take care and all the best in your quest for truth!

Love will prevail

[Epimethean]

It is in the bible? You are reading it in Greek? Careful there.

If you really want to start getting tech Terms for words, I really REALLY suggest you read this!

Very VERY interesting!

Actually if you want or desire amo for debates with Christians you will find a lot here!

http://www.rense.com/general71/defmo.htm

If you really want to get technical, avoid lecturing a philologist on where to go for words.

I really have no fish to fry here, so, knock yourself out-and let me know if you succeed.

[Cinjin]

I have no more time for you and any of your statements, questions or comments will go unanswered!

Nothing new there. You didn't address a single one as it is.

[Andrastos]

Oh look....another jesus freak douchebag to kick around.

Somehow, I doubt this jackass will last long.

I had a vison of Minimalist in the future

[tackattack]

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It is in the bible? You are reading it in Greek? Careful there.

If you really want to start getting tech Terms for words, I really REALLY suggest you read this!

Very VERY interesting!

Actually if you want or desire amo for debates with Christians you will find a lot here!

http://www.rense.com/general71/defmo.htm

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So you're going to use ammo from the catholic encyclopedia and fundamental gnostic principles to counter a mainstream Christian viewpoint.... makes a lot of sense.. :S