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Circumcision Ban
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Circumcision Ban
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"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
Einstein

When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down happy. They told me I didn't understand the assignment. I told them they didn't understand life.

- John Lennon
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RE: Circumcision Ban
My question is not religious at all...

How does circumcision affect sex? Does it make it better for everyone... worse for someone... or worse for everyone?
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#3
RE: Circumcision Ban
Well that comes into it certainly. To guarantee that a child's future sex life will be anything less than it could be is a travesty.
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"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
Einstein

When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down happy. They told me I didn't understand the assignment. I told them they didn't understand life.

- John Lennon
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RE: Circumcision Ban
(June 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: My question is not religious at all...

How does circumcision affect sex? Does it make it better for everyone... worse for someone... or worse for everyone?

You'd have to ask someone that had the surgery as an adult. It's nothing like female circumcision though, where they remove most of the ability to feel pleasure during sex. Personally, I'm circumsized & don't have nor have I ever heard any complaints.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Circumcision Ban
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RE: Circumcision Ban
(June 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: I hate it, it should be banned. Anyone who thinks genital mutilation Is ok in the 21st century is a neandathol.

I really think you need to learn what gentital mutilation actually is.
Circumcision isn't actually genital mutilation you know... It's just removing extra skin on the penis.
So what? What if people suffer from phimosis, are you going to like them suffer through it their whole life if circumcision was banned?
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#7
RE: Circumcision Ban
Just tell the xtian shitheads that the muslim shitheads are opposed to this initiative and their opposition will evaporate.
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RE: Circumcision Ban
(June 10, 2011 at 11:37 pm)Jax Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: I hate it, it should be banned. Anyone who thinks genital mutilation Is ok in the 21st century is a neandathol.

I really think you need to learn what gentital mutilation actually is.
Circumcision isn't actually genital mutilation you know... It's just removing extra skin on the penis.
So what? What if people suffer from phimosis, are you going to like them suffer through it their whole life if circumcision was banned?

No one is advocating banning circumcision when medically indicated.

The statement that it's "just removing extra skin" is the same justification used for FGM.

The fact is that this piece of "extra skin", as you put it, contains 90% of the nerve endings in the penis.
Removing it will make sex less pleasurable, and may make it difficult to get an erection come
middle-age or later.

The skin on the end of the penis is a mucus membrane. It is supposed to be kept moist. A circumcised
penis dries out - causing it irritation until the nerves "get used to it". This irritation would be similar to
what you'd feel if your nose or mouth dried out completely.

In some cases, when the circumcision is done "high and tight", it makes erections difficult and painful
throughout life.

In more rare instances, there are complications or accidents that happen with the circumcision. The most
severe of these is death from either blood loss or infection. The next most severe complication is
accidental amputation of the baby boy's penis. They can be botched in ways that it disfigures the child

Regardless of the prevalence of these risks, is it wise to expose an infant to any needless risk?

Is it ever right to perform cosmetic surgery on an unconsenting person? If they want to be circumcised
after they are of legal age, that would be okay, so long as the person were informed of the risks and
consequences.

Call it what you like, but it is unnecessary cutting - mutilation - of a healthy body part.

Beth
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RE: Circumcision Ban

"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."
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RE: Circumcision Ban
(June 10, 2011 at 11:37 pm)Jax Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: I hate it, it should be banned. Anyone who thinks genital mutilation Is ok in the 21st century is a neandathol.

I really think you need to learn what gentital mutilation actually is.
Circumcision isn't actually genital mutilation you know... It's just removing extra skin on the penis.
So what? What if people suffer from phimosis, are you going to like them suffer through it their whole life if circumcision was banned?

No I wouldn't let people suffer, I would agree with circumvision on medical grounds, but just for tradition is disgusting.

Surely genital mutilation is a change to the sexual organ. So I think I am correct in circumcision being genital mutilation. If I'm wrong I apologise. But how you can say 'it's just extra skin' is a bit silly.

I don't even want to go near female genital mutilation by muslims as is makes me feel queasy.
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