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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 10:56 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 10:26 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Democracy happens to be the only viable government after all other forms had long since failed.
What we have in America, is not a democracy. It is more akin to a republic, with heavy plutocrat (corporatist) intervention.
I understand that. I assumed the OP was referring to democracy in general, which has actually failed in history. And republics are very fragile, in the sense that they can transform permanently when equilibrium is breached. Leaning too far one way or the other can lead to a type of autocracy or mobocracy (tyranny by the majority). Both are quite similar when you get down to it, and neither are healthy. Americans do not seem interested in keeping the republic in good health.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 10:58 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 10:26 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Democracy happens to be the only viable government after all other forms had long since failed.
What we have in America, is not a democracy. It is more akin to a republic, with heavy plutocrat (corporatist) intervention.
True. If democracy was actually used as it is defined, we'd be getting somewhere.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:07 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 10:58 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 10:26 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Democracy happens to be the only viable government after all other forms had long since failed.
What we have in America, is not a democracy. It is more akin to a republic, with heavy plutocrat (corporatist) intervention.
True. If democracy was actually used as it is defined, we'd be getting somewhere.
Why is it "the only viable government after all other forms had long since failed"?? I do not remember every successful civilization being a democracy...
Also, do you realize the repercussions of true democracy?
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I have often thought what type of government would be best. True Democracy would probably work better than what we have now, but I do NOT believe it would be the best choice.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: I have often thought what type of government would be best. True Democracy would probably work better than what we have now, but I do NOT believe it would be the best choice.
If I remember correctly, Nietzsche had interesting views concerning his preferences towards governmental structures (to warn you, he was not a fan of true democracy). Also, the idiots need to be kickbanned from a true democracy, or else it will crumble in a very short time. I would not trust my countrymen with a democracy. The thought of handing political power to a random dude on the street perturbs me.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:22 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Spectrum Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: I have often thought what type of government would be best. True Democracy would probably work better than what we have now, but I do NOT believe it would be the best choice.
If I remember correctly, Nietzsche had interesting views concerning his preferences towards governmental structures (to warn you, he was not a fan of true democracy). Also, the idiots need to be kickbanned from a true democracy, or else it will crumble in a very short time. I would not trust my countrymen with a democracy. The thought of handing political power to a random dude on the street perturbs me.
Very true. I don't trust most of my fellow humans either. Due to the true fact that the illiteracy rate in Tennessee (where I live) is 48%. I would never want the fate of our nation in there hands.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:28 pm
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(July 22, 2011 at 11:22 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 11:19 pm)Spectrum Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: I have often thought what type of government would be best. True Democracy would probably work better than what we have now, but I do NOT believe it would be the best choice.
If I remember correctly, Nietzsche had interesting views concerning his preferences towards governmental structures (to warn you, he was not a fan of true democracy). Also, the idiots need to be kickbanned from a true democracy, or else it will crumble in a very short time. I would not trust my countrymen with a democracy. The thought of handing political power to a random dude on the street perturbs me.
Very true. I don't trust most of my fellow humans either. Due to the true fact that the illiteracy rate in Tennessee (where I live) is 48%. I would never want the fate of our nation in there hands.
I was born in Tenessee (Knoxville). I reside a state below though. I do not know what is worse: rednecks or the cursed sun. I have been told that I do not bear an accent, and a couple of people have even assumed I was foreign. At least I have the chance to reside elsewhere - when I finish my studies that is - without carrying the hick stigma.
EDIT: These people would prefer theocracy to any form of government, including the alleged smart people who are parallel to me grade-wise.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I luckily bear no accent also. Personally, I would prefer the sun. It doesn't get drunk and try and shoot bottles with a shotgun...
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:38 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: I luckily bear no accent also. Personally, I would prefer the sun. It doesn't get drunk and try and shoot bottles with a shotgun...
I had contemporaries in school who could not read an analog clock. I think that is worse than barbaric gun-toting.
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RE: Thoughts on society and the human race
July 22, 2011 at 11:42 pm
(July 22, 2011 at 11:38 pm)Spectrum Wrote: (July 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm)TheYoungAtheist Wrote: I luckily bear no accent also. Personally, I would prefer the sun. It doesn't get drunk and try and shoot bottles with a shotgun...
I had contemporaries in school who could not read an analog clock. I think that is worse than barbaric gun-toting.
Agreed..
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