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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 1, 2014 at 11:41 am
(November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: So the newspapers invented all this story.
Yes sometime it happen that newspapers make up stories in order to sell more paper however this story has solid foundations.
One newspaper.
Local edition.
And no other newspaper covering it.
Yeah - that newspaper made it up.
(November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: The temple is still there and carbon dating say that it is 7000 years old.
Prove it. Prove that a carbon dating test has determined it to be 7000 years old instead of repeating it ad naseum.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm
(November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: Even if God would manifest in front your very eyes levitating or doing other incredible things you would still believe that it is some magician doing some tricks.
Never mind this life has been wasted.
Maybe the next one will be a bit more productive.
Maybe! ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Taxi - follow that herring!
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 3, 2014 at 8:20 am
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(November 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: Even if God would manifest in front your very eyes levitating or doing other incredible things you would still believe that it is some magician doing some tricks.
Never mind this life has been wasted.
Maybe the next one will be a bit more productive.
Maybe! ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Taxi - follow that herring!
Taxi???
Please explain to a non-intellectual Rik what your Taxi means.
(November 1, 2014 at 11:41 am)genkaus Wrote: (November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: So the newspapers invented all this story.
Yes sometime it happen that newspapers make up stories in order to sell more paper however this story has solid foundations.
One newspaper.
Local edition.
And no other newspaper covering it.
Yeah - that newspaper made it up.
(November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am)Riketto Wrote: The temple is still there and carbon dating say that it is 7000 years old.
Prove it. Prove that a carbon dating test has determined it to be 7000 years old instead of repeating it ad naseum.
I do surrender to your logic.
Unless the carbon dating evidence is published in some western journal it does not exist.
Let us even forget about the Indian way of carrying out work and their notorious bureaucracy.
Maybe in the next 50 years when the Indians will do the right things we may see this report published in the right place.
In the meantime we just say that this carbon dating is all made up. ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif) ![Wink Shades Wink Shades](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/wink-shades.gif)
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 3, 2014 at 8:38 am
(November 3, 2014 at 8:20 am)Riketto Wrote: I do surrender to your logic.
You surrendering to logic would be a first.
(November 3, 2014 at 8:20 am)Riketto Wrote: Unless the carbon dating evidence is published in some western journal it does not exist.
You can provide the evidence published in any eastern journal - in fact, you can provide evidence issued by the ASI.
(November 3, 2014 at 8:20 am)Riketto Wrote: Let us even forget about the Indian way of carrying out work and their notorious bureaucracy.
Maybe in the next 50 years when the Indians will do the right things we may see this report published in the right place.
It has already been 15 years since the temple's discovery. And the ASI has provided evidence for a lot of later discoveries. Stop making excuses.
(November 3, 2014 at 8:20 am)Riketto Wrote: In the meantime we just say that this carbon dating is all made up. ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif) ![Wink Shades Wink Shades](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/wink-shades.gif) ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
No, the carbon dating thing is real. Whatever crap you are saying is made up.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 3, 2014 at 8:44 am
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(August 11, 2011 at 1:28 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Since people tend to be very varied in their "Religious Views", the amount of atheists on this site is relatively unknown. I can't be bothered to go around and count the number of "none", "anti-theist", "are you kidding me?" responses, so I'd like to post this very simple poll.
It has two options. If you believe in some sort of God (doesn't matter if you are a Christian, a Deist, a Wiccan, etc) then answer "Yes". If you don't believe in God (and that includes people who don't think the question is relevant), answer "No".
I just want to keep things very simple; I don't want to cause a debate over terms; if you think you believe in God, answer in the positive. If you don't think you believe in God, answer in the negative. If you are unsure what you believe, don't answer at all.
You can discuss your votes below; in fact this is encouraged as it will keep the thread highlighted in search results and so more people will be able to vote. Hopefully we'll be able to get most of the active users within a few days.
Could you explain a little more.
Do I believe in god as some kind of invisible supreme supernatural being(s) or do I believe there is such a thing as the concept of god, these two ideas are very different despite the fact they are often conflated (mainly by religious people). I think that is a fairly fundamental distinction that is important. I believe in the latter but not the former.
MM
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
November 30, 2014 at 8:52 pm
No, not in any way, shape, or form
Religion is a fairytale.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
December 6, 2014 at 12:41 am
i'm agnostic, so my position is i don't know whether there is a god or not but do feel there is some sort of a life force.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
December 6, 2014 at 6:26 am
(December 6, 2014 at 12:41 am)stillagnostic Wrote: i'm agnostic, so my position is i don't know whether there is a god or not but do feel there is some sort of a life force.
Me too on both counts.
Like the majority of the people on these forums I too am agnostic .. as well as an atheist (so far as I can tell given the really shitty definitions of 'god' one hears).
I also feel there is a life force. I feel that I am alive and I literally depend on the consumption of other life forms to maintain that force in me.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
December 6, 2014 at 6:51 am
On the atheist experience some guy asked Matt, "so do you not believe in God, or all the other gods too?"
I'll shut up now.
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RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
December 6, 2014 at 1:53 pm
I cannot accept a 'something from nothing' scenario in any way shape or form. Under this philosophy, I must accept the universe (and beyond) is alive.
The real question for me is, what are the possibilities that the universe is aware? Not in a controlling god sort of way of course, but rather a quantum level entanglement of awareness.
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