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A and E could not know love without eating of the TOK.

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A and E could not know love without eating of the TOK.
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A and E could not know love without eating of the TOK.
September 1, 2011 at 2:11 pm
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September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm (This post was last modified: September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The eden debate has moved to a definitive conclusion for me. It's a device used to create the setting and expectations for the rest of the narrative. Completely and wholly untrue, as well as being irrelevant to our lives today. (just my 2c)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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September 1, 2011 at 3:26 pm
(September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The eden debate has moved to a definitive conclusion for me. It's a device used to create the setting and expectations for the rest of the narrative. Completely and wholly untrue, as well as being irrelevant to our lives today. (just my 2c)

I agree that it has no truth other than as a myth.
I do not agree with your last though.

Woman is still not equal thanks to this myth and Gays are still discriminated and denigrated as well.

You may not be effected but those groups are.

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September 1, 2011 at 3:31 pm (This post was last modified: September 1, 2011 at 3:36 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Again, that the eden narrative contributed to the notion of a woman's lessened worth....is another reason that it is an irrelevant narrative. As a sort of heaven on earth narrative it can give us an idea of what kind of life that the authoring society felt would by idyllic, but beyond that...what is there? It's been suggested that the point of the tale was to show that knowledge of ones actions leads to immorality in a way that ignorance cannot. I don't personally subscribe to that view. But it makes for a hell of a metaphor.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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September 2, 2011 at 11:31 am
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(September 1, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Again, that the eden narrative contributed to the notion of a woman's lessened worth....is another reason that it is an irrelevant narrative.

It must be the way we use language.
How can it be irrelevant when it is, as we speak, hurting a huge part of our citizens thanks to fools taking Genesis literally?

Quote: As a sort of heaven on earth narrative it can give us an idea of what kind of life that the authoring society felt would by idyllic, but beyond that...what is there? It's been suggested that the point of the tale was to show that knowledge of ones actions leads to immorality in a way that ignorance cannot. I don't personally subscribe to that view. But it makes for a hell of a metaphor.

Nor I. It is a crappy metaphor.

Knowledge of ones actions, knowing ones self IOW, is quite good.
Hell, even scripture says it is as knowing good and evil, knowing what sin is and if we have done any, leads to repentance and repentance according to scripture is all that is required to reach heaven.

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September 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm
That's a pretty interesting take on things, not one I'm familiar with.
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September 2, 2011 at 12:49 pm (This post was last modified: September 2, 2011 at 12:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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September 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hello, Greatest. I've seen some of your stuff at koreabridge when checking up on my pal, Oy Veder and that idiot Stephen.

How did you find this place?
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