Dear Atheist Forums

[leo-rcc]

The whole tone of your "note" is one of distress over the status quo of the forum. Or am i reading something that is not supposed to be there??

Since when did this forum get all PC?? Vitriol is sometimes the only way to get through an argument. It doesn't happen often agreed, but it will happen..to assume otherwise is living in a childish lalaland. People are people they get agitated and for what ever reason (rightly so). I am confused as to the current spate of PC, "can't cope with this anymore" and "victim consciousness" ...this is an atheist forum it does NOT pretend to be a place where warm fuzzy bunnies come up to you and make everything better.

Here is the thing, there is a middle ground here. I don't hold to the "don't be a dick" thing either, but I am not going out of my way to insult people just because they have a different opinion. Vitriol can serve its purpose every now and again, but if it is used at nearly every post certain users make, it loses its sting and just becomes sad really.

I normally see 2 types of theists coming to this forum. 1 is to preach, troll, or convert you, the other being genuinely interested in what our position is and wanting an honest discussion about it.

As I said to CoxRox, it is almost impossible not to offend people if you challenge their core belief system.

But taking a dump on what they feel is a legitimate post even if it is riddled with fallacies and the weirdest forms of mental gymnastics, is not productive or constructive. It can be more prudent then to point out where the issues are with a post, than dismiss the theist as "just another idiot".

[frankiej]

I'm asking you to give people the benefit of the doubt and to stop assuming things before you find out the truth.

People who don't look for the truth is usually what we get annoyed with.

[theVOID]

Since when did this forum get all PC?? Vitriol is sometimes the only way to get through an argument. It doesn't happen often agreed, but it will happen..to assume otherwise is living in a childish lalaland. People are people they get agitated and for what ever reason (rightly so). I am confused as to the current spate of PC, "can't cope with this anymore" and "victim consciousness" ...this is an atheist forum it does NOT pretend to be a place where warm fuzzy bunnies come up to you and make everything better.

Vitriol often manifests as irrelevant personal insults, something that is *technically* against the rules but has been largely overlooked because for the most part the members here have generally had good attitudes and try to explain their contentions in a way designed to provoke though - somewhere along the line this good spirited nature started to decline, we need to change that.

[thesummerqueen]

I'm asking you to give people the benefit of the doubt and to stop assuming things before you find out the truth.

People who don't look for the truth is usually what we get annoyed with.

After almost a year here, you think I don't know that?

I am not going to cite specific examples or call specific people out. Again, you can discuss those opinions with me off thread.

[KichigaiNeko]

So essentially CoxRox and Diamond have "complained" enough (with validity I am assuming) hence this thread??

Hmm

[thesummerqueen]

So essentially CoxRox and Diamond have "complained" enough (with validity I am assuming) hence this thread??

Hmm

Erm, if you have that low of an opinion of me that you think it took only two people to get me to this level, we DEFINITELY need to talk.

[KichigaiNeko]

So essentially CoxRox and Diamond have "complained" enough (with validity I am assuming) hence this thread??

Hmm

Erm, if you have that low of an opinion of me that you think it took only two people to get me to this level, we DEFINITELY need to talk.

Clearly.... hence my queries??

[thesummerqueen]

Go ahead and e-mail me.

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[frankiej]

Geez... Calm doon ladies.

[thesummerqueen]

FYI -

I'm perfectly calm. I don't have the energy to get worked up by shit here, after all I deal with in real life. I'm just bummed by it.

I'm not angry at anyone here. I'm not attacking anyone. I put this out here, and you can crucify me if you want for what you think I said, but at least do me the respect of making sure you're not assuming a tone or hidden meaning.