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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I did both.
A big factor in my change from before is that I focused on harm done, decided that charity is too limited and unscaled to properly address what a global social safety net should be (targeted to those who need it without running afoul of the bigotries of certain charitable organizations (Salvation Army I'm looking at you)), saw no issue with propping up a museum if the public wishes to pay taxes for it and saw only minor issues with corporations, as long as they're regulated closely.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I think a lot of people are libertarians in many views, but we only usually have 2 choices. In the US that is.
Liar, or Liar that cares about people a little bit more than the other liar.
US needs fundamental change in how our government works.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:07 pm
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Nolan chart puts me as a centrist, bordering on libertarian, on the liberal side, as opposed to conservative (trouble with the image).
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm
(September 7, 2011 at 5:14 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (September 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote: I'm not a big fan of this particular test. There's no option to not have an opinion, and some of the questions seemed just a little bit loaded. Despite that, here's where I landed - Neither am I, which is why I advocate the Nolan chart. It's a much smaller test as well.
LOL, I like the Nolan chart even less. Too few questions, and the answers I found to be too specific. In most cases, I found myself picking the answer I hated the least because none of them really fit. I don't think the results were as accurate.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Believe they're meant to touch on subjects that are considered hot buttons for this or that group. Trying to pin any person down exactly is likely to be a long and tedious process, as a person can (and many times does) hold conflicting opinions on a single issue.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:33 pm
You need to take a screenshot of the Nolan Chart results.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:45 pm
No surprise here
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 7, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I'm fairly certain that the weight of my stance on gun control alone threw me out of liberal left field and into centrism (on the chart) which I don't think is warranted..lol.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 10, 2011 at 3:36 am
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Yes you can be both a ln atheist and a conservative. But a lesser sub species of atheist. Your not deluded, but your quite possible selfish and stupid.
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RE: Can Atheists Be Conservative?
September 10, 2011 at 7:23 pm
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(September 4, 2011 at 4:21 pm)bozo Wrote: I'm a Socialist, no test needed!
A pretty meaningless claim,the term is very broad.. But,you're right a waste of time if you are serious. That test is a smidge over simplified. I' m far from convinced it has any use on its own apart from mild entertainment value,like say astrology.
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