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RE: Science experiments - Atheist views?
September 8, 2011 at 1:29 pm
"Harry Harlow and his colleagues go on torturing their nonhuman primates decade after decade, invariably proving what we all knew in advance—that social creatures can be destroyed by destroying their social ties."
About sums it up for me. Waste of resources, waste of monkeys, waste of time.
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RE: Science experiments - Atheist views?
September 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Agreed Rhythm. The man sounds more like a sadist who used "experiments" to justify his own need to make something else suffer the way he was suffering.
I find his actions deplorable.
And yet, just like a deadly plane crash leads to better restrictions and safer flying, his actions did finally have a positive outcome.
Still doesn't justify it, but nonetheless, it is there.
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RE: Science experiments - Atheist views?
September 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Without even getting into the aspects of the actual experiments, I find it deplorable that felt the need to replicate clinical depression. Having suffered from it for 17 years, I can safely say I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Then there's the nature of his experiments which would make Dr. Mengele proud. I was especially appalled by the fact that since the monkeys had no sexual attraction, he tied them up to be raped.
I think the issue of ethics of science is an important issue to discuss, but there is no need for debate on this one. Personally, if I ran into the guy, I would stick him in one of those chambers.
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RE: Science experiments - Atheist views?
September 8, 2011 at 3:04 pm
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(September 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Personally, if I ran into the guy, I would stick him in one of those chambers.
With a couple of his psychotic foot eating monkeys.
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RE: Science experiments - Atheist views?
September 8, 2011 at 3:23 pm
What do you think of Raes ends justify the means comment, how far down the road do you go?
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