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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 4:31 pm
(September 12, 2011 at 4:28 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well the age of scripture is irrelevant to its truthfulness.
I don't know how you figured this one out.
I could apply that to anything...
The age of the flat world theory is irrelevant to its truthfulness.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 4:38 pm
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The age of a small child is irrelevant to it's truthfulness.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 4:50 pm
I meant uneducated by TODAY'S standard. We know more about science and medicine than Luke and Paul ever did. In the end, they were still men. By appealing to scripture you are appealing to their opinion.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:02 pm
(September 12, 2011 at 4:31 pm)frankiej Wrote: I don't know how you figured this one out.
I could apply that to anything...
The age of the flat world theory is irrelevant to its truthfulness.
It’s an actual logical fallacy that’s why, appeal to novelty. Just because something is newer does not logically mean it is better or true.
As to the pont about the flat earth, we can directly observe the shape of the earth now; we cannot directly observe the claims of the Bible because they are historical so the analogy is false.
(September 12, 2011 at 4:50 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: I meant uneducated by TODAY'S standard. We know more about science and medicine than Luke and Paul ever did. In the end, they were still men. By appealing to scripture you are appealing to their opinion.
I would disagree, they were far more disciplined in their studies than common day people today, Paul could speak and write at least three languages (probably even four), and not many people can do that today. Saying that scripture is merely their opinions is begging the question because you are assuming that scripture’s claim to be something other than mere opinion is false a priori.
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September 12, 2011 at 5:05 pm
What are you talking about? I meant they did not have to access to scientific and medical knowledge we have today.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:12 pm
(September 12, 2011 at 5:05 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: What are you talking about? I meant they did not have to access to scientific and medical knowledge we have today.
Indeed....so?
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm
(September 12, 2011 at 4:28 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well the age of scripture is irrelevant to its truthfulness. The only revelation we are given concerning the supernatural is what God has revealed to us in scripture, so I appeal to it when it comes to matters of the supernatural, I know that dogs do not have souls because scriptures says only humans have souls.
Greetings Statler. Where does it say in the Bible that humans have souls ('eternal souls' I think you said in an earlier post) and that animals do not have souls? If you happen to be wrong in these two matters, then it could be that you are wrong on other related matters?
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I love how you called me ignorant and then proceeded to use the Bible as proof, Stat. It's okay. I know your intelligence is stunted by your beliefs.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:44 pm
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(September 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Greetings Statler. Where does it say in the Bible that humans have souls ('eternal souls' I think you said in an earlier post) and that animals do not have souls? If you happen to be wrong in these two matters, then it could be that you are wrong on other related matters?
Well it’s a non-sequitur to assume just because a person is wrong about point A they are also wrong about point B. Be that as it may, Genesis is clear that man is distinguished from the animals because he was made in God’s image, this is meant as on a spiritual level, meaning man exists after death and was made with some of God’s likenesses. Some verses in the New Testament that also support the concept of a soul that exists after death are…
Matthew 17:1-8 and Luke 16:19-31
Man is spiritually distinct from the animals because he exists after death. Nice to meet you by the way.
(September 12, 2011 at 5:43 pm)Shell B Wrote: I love how you called me ignorant and then proceeded to use the Bible as proof, Stat. It's okay. I know your intelligence is stunted by your beliefs.
I called you philosophically ignorant; you not knowing that when I appeal to scripture I am being very philosophically astute because it is my ultimate authority on matters of truth just helps to demonstrate that my claims about your philosophical ignorance were well supported.
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
September 12, 2011 at 5:49 pm
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Quote:I honestly can’t be too hard on you here since your errors are more of a result of an underlying philosophical ignorance than dishonesty
Philosophical ignorance? This coming from you? I'm not being dishonest. I am being reasonable. You, on the other hand, are being a twat, as usual.
Quote:but a worldview certainly can be based off of just one disbelief, particularly when that disbelief greatly impacts your views on existence, evidence, epistemology, and purpose (as atheism certainly does).
That does not make that single disbelief a worldview. You are grasping at straws.
Quote:Solipsism is both a philosophy and a worldview and it is simply the disbelief in the existence of anything other than one’s own mind.
And?
Quote:Just because you adhere to a worldview that cannot be intellectually defended is no justification for your complete ignorance of philosophical terms. G’day.
You know absolutely nothing of my "worldview." Therefore, you have no grounds to say that it cannot be defended. If you are speaking of my atheism, I'm sorry that you are so purposely ignorant that you think atheism makes up my entire worldview. As for my "complete ignorance of philosophical terms," shove it up your ass. I'm entirely sick of dealing with your flaming, Stat. You set yourself and your beliefs on a pedestal and refuse to even try to expand your own sickeningly stunted knowledge. If you really think the bible holds all the answers, you are hopelessly lost and nothing I can say will change the outcome of every debate we have. You will always end with, "The Bible tells me so, stupid atheist. Nahna." It's fucking pathetic.
(September 12, 2011 at 5:44 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I called you philosophically ignorant; you not knowing that when I appeal to scripture I am being very philosophically astute because it is my ultimate authority on matters of truth just helps to demonstrate that my claims about your philosophical ignorance were well supported.
Oh, yes, very astute. *rolls eyes*
Your ultimate authority should have been recycled for shit tickets a long time ago.
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