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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 9:58 am
He'd like to, but he's probably been burnt by forums rules before..lol.
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 11:10 am
(September 29, 2011 at 8:27 am)Napoleon Wrote: A team doesn't necessarily need to choose or say when they forfeit. For instance if a football team doesn't have enough players to start the game then they must forfeit. They may not necessarily want to forfeit, but they don't really have a choice.
I see it as though theists are the ones who have to forfeit, because if you take the amount of intelligence they have as the amount of players on their team, you'd end up with them forfeiting. 
This is the view one would naturally expect their opponents to hold. And so can't count for much. What one needs here is the view of the referee - not youir view.
Anyway, with regard to not turning up, as I've already pointed out, it's atheists who are lately failing to turn up for debates with theists, so, even by your rules.....
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 11:13 am
The referee in this debate is known as evidence. Care to present some?
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2011 at 11:50 am by Zaki Aminu.)
(September 29, 2011 at 11:13 am)Rhythm Wrote: The referee in this debate is known as evidence. Care to present some?
Evidence for what exactly? And how would valid evidence be known? Furthermore, how would it be weighed against counter-evidence?
I prefer to use logic. What is your chosen methodology?
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September 29, 2011 at 11:24 am
(Mis)use logic. Fixed that for you. And of course you would, because you have no evidence.
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 11:53 am
(September 29, 2011 at 11:24 am)Rhythm Wrote: (Mis)use logic. Fixed that for you. And of course you would, because you have no evidence.
Evidence is meaningless without logic to recognise and interpret it. Furthermore, what I want is not mere evidence but conclusive evidence. Evidence that is not sufficient to silence all logical counter-arguments is not much better than useless. So you see, I hold myself to an even higher standard than the one you demand. So have no fear.
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 12:04 pm
If someone shows you evidence, it isn't their fault that you can't interpret it logically.
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 12:12 pm
(September 29, 2011 at 12:04 pm)frankiej Wrote: If someone shows you evidence, it isn't their fault that you can't interpret it logically.
There has to be an objective measure of "evidence" otherwise it doesn't really mean anything! Scientists can't do their work without standard measures - very precise standard measures. So to refuse to subscribe to a standard by which evidence can be objectively adjudicated is not being very scientific - or logical - is it?
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September 29, 2011 at 12:24 pm
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Waffling on about evidence in two threads simultaneously eh? How about you stick to providing support for your own claims?
(it's kind of amusing that arguing over standards of evidence is the only thing any of our apologists seem to be willing to do recently)
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RE: IM SICK OF THESE DEBATES!!!
September 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm
(September 29, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Waffling on about evidence in two threads simultaneously eh? How about you stick to providing support for your own claims?
(it's kind of amusing that arguing over standards of evidence is the only thing any of our apologists seem to be willing to do recently)
Perhaps an example will help: You earlier claimed that the American continent did not exist until it was discovered by Europeans in 1492 when evidence of it was found. Now, if statements like that are going to be included in this discourse it doesn't have a hope, does it?
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