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I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
#41
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
[facepalm]

I can't believe I'm dumb enough to respond to this thread after being completely destressed, but I guess I must fucking love you all.

First of all, Jason, atheists are a minority. Chances are pretty much 99.99% that everyone on here knows, perhaps intimately, a theist of some sort in their outside life. Some of us used to be theists. It's more than a little condescending to assume that we don't consider what a theist might feel, as theists might be our spouses, our lovers, our dearest friends, or long-running fellow members of this board. Or, if you had stopped to look a moment, even respected and well liked staff members. We currently have a muslim moderator and had a Christian moderator for a while. On an atheist forum. We do this because we take other people's feelings into account.

Something theists need to understand when they come onto this board is that they are walking into OUR clubhouse. We are not taking over some Christian clubhouse and demanding you play by our rules. We built our own little tree house here and left the trap door open. If you want to stay, you have to respect the fact that we WON'T play by your rules and if you don't like it you can leave.

On the other hand, we might end up liking you and what you bring to the mix, which is what's demonstrably happened. We have theists, deists, atheists and everything inbetween. Those who stayed did so because they, as people, added humor, love, intelligence, and respect to this board, which I'm sorry to say a lot of theists DON'T when they sign up. They waltz in here expecting to do what you accused us of: changing ideas with one good post. It's not going to happen. When it doesn't, they throw fits. We're not here to change anything with a good post, although I love it when a lurker happens through and feels inspired. We're here as a community of people who want sanctuary from the religious nuts. Not a single one of us would be here if all of the theists in our lives acted with the same respect and forethought as you're asking for. For instance, I showed up because Shell found me in a pissing match on one of her pages with a theist who was trying to restate history to fit her religious views. I can't stand that shit and need a place to vent. If people weren't so eager to change science and history to agree with their worldview, my sexy ass would be gracing some other site.

Before you come in here "casting stones" as it were, take a minute to realize you, as a claimed atheist, basically walked in rockin' out with your cock out like several other preacher-types. You have an idea, but you haven't established your character with us yet to give us any reason to even hear it out, much less try it.

For the record, *I* made a long post asking for people here to be a little nicer on BOTH sides - so yeah, I kinda get what you said. Guess what? Got the same answers, just a lot less cursing. Suck it up, cupcake.

If theists want to come here for real discussion and not be blasted out, they have to first establish that they aren't crazy - because living in the Bible Belt my knee jerk reaction is to say "I don't want to deal with you, holy roller." Yet some of my deepest friends believe in god. They're my friends because they deal with me in a way that has nothing to do with God, and I deal with them the same way. But come in pissing at me and we'll have a problem. Most people here are the same way. If anyone thinks differently, the best example I have is the goodbye post Ryft (one of our most stubborn apologists) made to our creator (Tiberius) in his stepping-down thread. They've gone head-to-head on a number of things on and off the forum and still maintain deep respect and affection for each other as people. All because an atheist AND a theist treated each other the way they wanted to be treated themselves. Funny how that works out.

So sit down, drink an iced tea, have a biscuit and cool your jets. Let's get to know you. Check up on what you write, if you're really an atheist, and make sure your language reflects what you're really thinking and communicates it in the best way possible. This place is fun. It's not a place to throw accusations around. We'll fuckin' bury you. Or serve you lemonade. Your pick. Take some time to get to know the locals and see if we're still the sort to completely disregard what theists think and feel. In this instance, I promise you, sugar, posts WILL change your mind.
PS - I do love you all. I feel very smiley. Y'all are great. I really don't know what I'd have done without this place for the past year.
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#42
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
(October 5, 2011 at 8:46 pm)Napoleon Wrote:
(October 5, 2011 at 8:41 pm)jason56 Wrote: suck my cock, you fucking bellend wanker.



One word of caution though, whatever you like in the bedroom is your business, but inviting random people to suck your cock isn't always a wise thing Wink


Quite right.You might bite. THEN he'd be fucking sorry.Tiger
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#43
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
(October 5, 2011 at 5:44 pm)jason56 Wrote: Ok, I just wanted to point out something that seems a little twisted on these here forums. The complete and utter disrespect of people who have a different opinion on God. Is it really that hard to see why people believe in God? Are you really that short-sighted?

Funny concept, this respect thing. Before knowing a person I respect someone for being a fellow human being, that's all. The more someone earns respect in my eyes, the more he'll get. So what if I think someone's an utter moron, it's up to him to decide if it's worth getting upset about. I'm not that conceited that I think that everyone wants to be respected by me. You see, the disrespect you think stems from not believing in the same philosophy I do is complete bullshit. If I don't respect anyone, it is because I think he is a shitty person (or comes across as one).

It's not hard at all to see why people believe in a god, but I think the reasons for doing so are ridiculous. Needing a comfort blanket and a thumb to suck at an adult age is just sad.

Quote:Some of you show a complete and utter lack of appreciation for God's involvement in our evolution

God's involvement in our evolution? Really? Well, I imagine the idea of gods had something to do with the structure of society, but on the other hand, the same can be said about all crazes, religious or not.

Quote:And before you reply, I want you to imagine your brother/sister believes in God.

Actually, my sister was a believer. Without any help from me, she began to doubt, though. She told me that she would read through the Bible and then decide what to do. I told her it was a marvelous idea. She then continued that if the Bible is actually the word of God, she can't be any follower of the Christian God at least, since she couldn't agree with most of the things that was written there. She still believes in something, but when I told her about deism, and said that she probably is a deist, she nodded and said that's exactly what she believes, she just didn't have a word for it. And it doesn't make me love her any less. My cousin and best friend on the other hand consider herself a pagan and believes in some supernatural forces, but I don't respect her any less for it either. What people personally believe in is no business of mine, but when religion becomes organised and starts war over fictitious imaginary friends, brainwashes children and dismisses reason, then I have something to say about it.


When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#44
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
jason, how can an atheist say this -
Quote:Some of you show a complete and utter lack of appreciation for God's involvement in our evolution as a species.

How can an atheist appreciate god's involvement in anything if he/she does not first believe in god's existence?

It's like saying I appreciate A's involvement in B even though I don't believe in A. Doesn't make any sense.

An atheist is someone who does not believe in god, at all! So how can we as atheists appreciate god in anything?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#45
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
Damn summer I want to marry you.
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#46
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE BOYS THAT ARE 300 TO 3000 MILES AWAY!?
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#47
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
The best ones are worth going the distance for.
Cunt
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#48
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
(October 6, 2011 at 7:26 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE BOYS THAT ARE 300 TO 3000 MILES AWAY!?

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#49
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
Stunning, isn't it, that jason56 (or whatever that guy's name is) completely denies that he believes in god after stating that we deny god's role in evolution.
And, of course, we are expected to believe that his profile signature, which procliams a religion of some kind (which one is non-specified) is a statment intended to test our reactions to it.
A test which, by the way, he asserts we failed after he went on our forum and called us short-sighted for practicing freedom of speech.

This sounds a bit too convenient. My assertion: he's highly religious, noticed that there is indeed a trend here that theists have their beliefs refuted, and pretended to be an atheist so he could guilt us into giving "one of our own" a different response than we would give a theist.
If he had recieved this different response, he would have thrown this actual test in our faces as proof of bias. But he didn't, because we're logical and respond to pathetic dogma the same way, no matter who it comes from.
Plus, he's an idiot who did a very poor job of hiding his religion. Perhaps he thought it would be a betrayal of some kind to whoever his god is if he changed his prof. sig. to Atheist.
Or maybe he just has no fucking idea what an atheist actually is (a person who has a complete and utter disbelief in god- not hatred or mistrust- but disbelief), and he actually believes that he is an atheist.

Alternatively, it was a test as he said. In that case, he doesn't understand that we're hostile to theists because most of them on this forum, rather than only state a belief, attempt to undermine the factual information we present. (Evolution, etc.)
What falls away is always, and is near.

Also, I am not pretending to be female, this profile picture is my wonderful girlfriend. XD
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#50
RE: I'm an atheist, my brother is not.
(October 5, 2011 at 6:22 pm)jason56 Wrote: I didn't mean any trickery. I was making a point about the dismissive nature of people on these forums. Rather than embracing opposing views and building a constructive argument, they tell people to "fuck off".

Carry on in your own special word. I just want it noted that I'm an atheist and I'm nothing like you guys. You're idiots.
You should consider that a lot of atheists (including some of those in the forums) "enjoy" very stupid christians that were made to believe through parental indoctrination - or whatever the hell you may call it - in their everyday life. For example, I am visiting a christian school and I have met lots of people with religious views that you would never think are even possible to be considered. When every good argument against diehard creationists bounces off their will to believe in God or any other transcendent being, the day comes were you abandon your faith in humans being generally able to debate with each other, no matter how much their views might differ. This is why some people here just stopped debating, because they "heard the same shit" over and over again.

For my part, I actually share your views and in my opinion there are certain questions that, so far, I could only answer by assuming that there is a God (which does by no means prove him). However, most Christians I know don't know or have never even thought about these questions and rather believe because they found a friend in Jesus or are used to have a reliable social community that would not exist without belief God (which is why I sometimes still debate with them).

If lots of crappy sentences are in this, I apologize. I'm not a native.
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