Libertarian left and right

[5thHorseman]

Mehmet, are you finally announcing that you are a muslim?

Your first answer appears to insinuate this.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Mehmet, are you finally announcing that you are a muslim?

Your first answer appears to insinuate this.

My view on woman's rights is not certainly associated with any religion, although I do not deny that I base many things on traditional settings.
I do not advocate a society without limits.
And such a society certainly does not exist amongst any Turkish nations on earth, on the contrary, we have been sticking to the same values ever since, independent on whatever creed or religion we have adopted.
My ideology comes before any other religious values I have. It does not matter if I'm a christian, muslim or pagan.
I will still adhere to the same ideals, that are shared by my collegues who profess belief in other gods aswell.
And really, what constitutes "woman's rights" for you, truly?
I see woman's rights as our ancestors viewed them.
The Khan, and the Khatun ruled the kingdom, side by side, and both men and women contributed to war efforts, with the women even riding into battle with men sometimes, collecting heads as they saw fit.
They owned property, sold it, and had the rights to divorce their husbands when they saw fit.
Our women were proud, and held their honour in high esteem. They saw their honor as the equals of the honor of the men, and the men saw their onor as inseperable from the women.
In fact, the honor of our men and women were sullied when they accepted more universal creeds, and accepted foreigners into their respective families.
If we stayed true to the god and creed of our ancestors, we would probably not even allowed foreigners to live in our cities, to become our neighbors, and to lustfully eye our women and men.

In short, men were in all aspects of society, ever the equals of men, and being even sometimes above men, as they were more frequently favored as shamans from Gods than men.
This is not to say anything on my religious views, as I do not feel obliged to tell you about them, and I never will.

[5thHorseman]

You say nothing about your religious views yet you join an atheist forum and spend little if any time on atheism or religious threads, thats strange.

Wtf is the point.

[kılıç_mehmet]

You say nothing about your religious views yet you join an atheist forum and spend little if any time on atheism or religious threads, thats strange.

Wtf is the point.

Yes, and I maintained the same point in the other atheist forum I also post in. There they know me much better.

[The Grand Nudger]

Perhaps he realized that there was already far too much to give him shit about without adding whatever superstitions he has into the mix?...hehehehe.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Perhaps he realized that there was already far too much to give him shit about without adding whatever superstitions he has into the mix?...hehehehe.

I have none of the superstitions that you people have.

[reverendjeremiah]

Racists get ignored... racists should be ignored by all.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Racists get ignored... racists should be ignored by all.

The fact that you desperately try to "ignore" me doesn't really hurt me in any way.
You're not the ones that my ideology encompasses, I am obliged to tell this to only to my kin, yet I explained my views to you just FYI, so that you'll maybe learn something out of it.