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(November 1, 2011 at 11:02 am)salty Wrote: Anyone can have this understanding, all they have to do is be willing to believe and it will become clear to them too.
You see, this is where I don't get it... I have to be willing to believe? From what is shown in the bible, I wouldn't want such a horrible being to exist... In the same way I wouldn't have wanted someone like Hitler to exist.
And if I did believe in him, I certainly wouldn't worship the fascist.
I could say the same thing about Son Goku... You don't understand just now, but if you are willing to believe in him, then the truth will be revealed to you... Fucking bullshit, missy.
(November 1, 2011 at 1:06 am)lucent Wrote: When you remove all other considerations, there are only two possible answers to the question, "was the universe deliberately created?". That's 50/50.
I think we can safely add statistics to the long list of things Lucent doesn't understand.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
(November 1, 2011 at 11:02 am)salty Wrote: It is very hard to convey the ununderstanding that overcomes people when they believe that God is real and the Bible is true.
I fixed it for you.
Quote:Anyone can have this understanding, all they have to do is be willing to believe and it will become clear to them too.
(November 1, 2011 at 1:06 am)lucent Wrote: When you remove all other considerations, there are only two possible answers to the question, "was the universe deliberately created?". That's 50/50.
I think we can safely add statistics to the long list of things Lucent doesn't understand.
(November 1, 2011 at 11:02 am)salty Wrote: Anyone can have this understanding, all they have to do is be willing to believe and it will become clear to them too.
You see, this is where I don't get it... I have to be willing to believe? From what is shown in the bible, I wouldn't want such a horrible being to exist... In the same way I wouldn't have wanted someone like Hitler to exist.
And if I did believe in him, I certainly wouldn't worship the fascist.
I could say the same thing about Son Goku... You don't understand just now, but if you are willing to believe in him, then the truth will be revealed to you... Fucking bullshit, missy.
If you're reading this, you're an ape. More specifically, you're an African Ape. You don't have to believe that for it to be true. Praise be to facts.
November 1, 2011 at 11:17 am (This post was last modified: November 1, 2011 at 11:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Tactfully and assertively Salty? O-kay......So, the strange notion that neither of you is capable of dealing with the most common objections to your favorite fairy stories and instead prefer to avoid them entirely with doublespeak wouldn't really mean much, would it?
Every conversation with either of you thusfar-
:Theist Nutball: I confidently assert this or that nonsense.
:Can't Believe His Fucking Eyes Atheist: Care to quantify that?
:Theist Nutball: Nope.
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The magical thing about facts is that they are true if you actually want them to be or not. You may not understand certain things, but that doesn't mean it isn't a fact. The idea that a truth can only be revealed to you because you actively want to have an imaginary friend is insane.
Quote:If you really want the truth are you willing to go against the tide, even for a moment, in case the truth is literally buried in what you consider "enemy territory"?
How exactly has that been going for you btw? Last I recall there was the sound of trumpets as reality faded into the background under the crushing weight of a myth you chose to believe in regardless.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
November 1, 2011 at 11:25 am (This post was last modified: November 1, 2011 at 11:35 am by Jaysyn.)
(November 1, 2011 at 10:39 am)salty Wrote:
(October 31, 2011 at 2:39 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Clearly his personal experience of his pet god trumps my personal experience with it, because he's the one making the claim about it and the Universe revolves around him alone, therefore everyone else's personal experiences are satanic unless they happen to agree with his. I've just read that sentence back and it appears to make grammatical sense.
It really depends on what happened in your personal experience whether it's holy or satanic. If you were involved in the worship of idols, that's considered a satanic experience because God declares that he is living and by worshipping idols you worship Satan. If you were in your car hoping that God would hear your desperate prayer, you were involved in a holy experience because God declares that he will never leave us, never abandon us and that he hears you.
Lucent's claims are firmly biblical, all the way down to the demon possession and the devil pulling the strings on people like puppets. Anyone who cannot find a small sliver of truth in what Lucent claims IS being deceived because Lucent isn't making other people's experiences void, instead he's asking if you are really seekers of truth or if general opinion is enough to convince you? This is something that Christians have to think about too, just as he mentioned there are tons of Christians out there that are captive to false doctrines, worshipping the devil, because general opinion said it was right, they never did the research for themselves. So that is his challenge to anyone that is seeking God.
If you really want the truth are you willing to go against the tide, even for a moment, in case the truth is literally buried in what you consider "enemy territory"?
The previous post was made from 100% post-consumer recycled nonsense. You need a critical thinking class even worse than Lucent here, if that is even possible.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
