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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 27, 2011 at 3:03 pm
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Chatpilot Wrote:Pope I don't think that this text qualifies as a contradiction I actually agree with GC on this one somewhat. All this text is saying that it is more difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than the average Joe. Being rich poses a lot of challenges to a believer that are not common to a man or woman of average means.
Well, yes, now I've looked at it, most commentators certainly take it that way, so I'll have to concede GC that point. I have always taken it to mean "no entry". You live and learn. 
However, my error does support my point that the 'word of god', which should be couched in clear terms if we are to live by it, is in fact mostly obscure and ambiguous about the really important stuff.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 27, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Quote:I have no problem because I have God leading me.
If there were a god he'd be ashamed of a follower like you.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 27, 2011 at 3:05 pm
(May 27, 2011 at 2:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: When did the truth become absurd, I bet when it doesn't agree with your truth.
Truth isn't absurd. Truth is truth.
What is absurd is making a statement like that. I mean, Jesus existed before the beginning of time! To start with, there's no evidence that Jesus existed at all and even if he did he certainly didn't exist prior to a couple of thousand years ago. Why no mention of him in the O.T.?
And even if he did it doesn't matter because the source of your absurdity is the idea that anything can exist before time. Think about it. How can there possibly be a 'before' time itself. What the hell would that look like? If there was a before time then it would have to be a time so therefore could not be before time.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 3:53 am
(May 27, 2011 at 3:05 pm)Darwinian Wrote: (May 27, 2011 at 2:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: When did the truth become absurd, I bet when it doesn't agree with your truth.
Truth isn't absurd. Truth is truth.
What is absurd is making a statement like that. I mean, Jesus existed before the beginning of time! To start with, there's no evidence that Jesus existed at all and even if he did he certainly didn't exist prior to a couple of thousand years ago. Why no mention of him in the O.T.?
And even if he did it doesn't matter because the source of your absurdity is the idea that anything can exist before time. Think about it. How can there possibly be a 'before' time itself. What the hell would that look like? If there was a before time then it would have to be a time so therefore could not be before time.
Think these things through before you make a pillock of yourself!
There is no time in eternity and yes Jesus is mentioned many times in the OT just not by name. Look in the third chapter of Genesis and you will find Him mentioned there.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 6:19 am
(May 28, 2011 at 3:53 am)Godschild Wrote: There is no time in eternity and yes Jesus is mentioned many times in the OT just not by name. Look in the third chapter of Genesis and you will find Him mentioned there.
Really?
Just looked and saw nothing, unless you mean the serpent.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 6:32 am
(May 28, 2011 at 3:53 am)Godschild Wrote: There is no time in eternity and yes Jesus is mentioned many times in the OT just not by name. Look in the third chapter of Genesis and you will find Him mentioned there.
Again!! How can there be an eternity with no time? An eternity of what exactly?
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 6:44 am
Quote:I have no problem because I have God leading me.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 7:27 am
@Dar- what GC is refferring to is Jesus as the initial light in Genesis (being a spiritual use not literal as in the light we see) to which, Jesus is reffered to many times in NT as the light, and prophesied about in the OT as the light. This link Has a rather lengthy put thourough exploration of Jesus from Genesis through Revelation if you're interested. There has been time, to my knowledge since the begning of the universe, what came before that, and after it's entropy is the eternity he's reffering to (I believe, not meaning to speak for any1), which would indeed have no reference for time, IMO.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 7:34 am
Here are a couple
One God, Three Separate Persons and the 'tension' between God's sovereignty and man's responsibility.
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RE: What is your Favorite Religious Contradiction?
May 28, 2011 at 7:46 am
What/who exactly was that in responce to Atman?
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