Christian Looking For Debate

[ElDinero]

Stealing that.

[Minimalist]

What?

[Mister Agenda]

Probably the cool red-to-blue text graphic. Great illustration of how micro-evolution leads to macro-evolution.

[The Grand Nudger]

But the text IS still red................
(it was a fairly sweet way of explaining the concept)

[Norfolk And Chance]

This is true. I looked over the entire thing and your right I don't know how to hold a rational argument nor logic. I'm trying to learn. I know what I believe but don't know how to logically defend it. Thank you everyone for the things you've said you've really challenged me. Honestly I've never been in a debate or needed to defend my beliefs in this way before. You all have given me much to think about and learn from so thanks.
Seeing as how I'm only 19 I have plenty of time to learn more. Perhaps one day I'll be able to bring a rational and logical argument here.

Yes, when you've became atheist.

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I don't see whats wrong with being affiliated with Islam please clarify that.

They have stupid beards and dress codes which advertise the fact that they are deluded.

At least with christians you can't tell they're deluded until they say something. I can walk past christians and not know anything about their delusion or think about it, same can't be said for muslims.

[Minimalist]

At least with christians you can't tell they're deluded until they say something.

True of many....some of the xtian bozos we have posting here only need to show up for us to know they are deluded.

[J.D.]

About a century ago, I was on the debate team for my high school and it was a good experience. I learned to use evidence to back up an arguement. That just doesn't seem to work for this kind of debate because there is no evidence to support the idea of an actual supernatural being as creator of the universe.

If you believe that there is a god that really exists, then you should not be expected to defend that belief with logic, because it is an illogical position to begin with.

I think that I can know with certitude that religion was created by man, and is nothing more than mythology because that is the factual truth.

[fr0d0]

That just doesn't seem to work for this kind of debate because there is no evidence to support the idea of an actual supernatural being as creator of the universe.

There can be no [empirical] evidence, for that would defy logic. (There simply cannot be natural evidence of the supernatural, or it would cease to be supernatural)

If you believe that there is a god that really exists, then you should not be expected to defend that belief with logic, because it is an illogical position to begin with.

So how do you know it is illogical? You are making an indefensible claim given the nature of the subject, unless you have supernatural powers and can detect the supernatural. I assume you do not and we can dismiss your statement easily.

[Minimalist]

That just doesn't seem to work for this kind of debate because there is no evidence to support the idea of an actual supernatural being as creator of the universe.

Xtians have a unique ability to transform anything into proof of their heavenly invisible friend.

"I had a pain in my abdomen and then 'god' let me take a shit and I was cured."

[The Grand Nudger]

You are making an indefensible claim given the nature of the subject, unless you have supernatural powers and can detect the supernatural. I assume you do not and we can dismiss your statement easily.

Firstly, this statement can be leveraged against you with your claim to god. Laying that aside, you easily dismiss the supernatural in the case of the poster but go ahead and extend it to your god anyway? This game appears to be rigged, by definition.