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Craig and Genocide
November 8, 2011 at 11:55 am
I know I've seen this before but couldn't remember if it was on here or one of my feeds. Forgive me if someone posted the original and point it out. Regardless:
http://bigthink.com/ideas/40992
Quote:As Dawkins points out, Craig argues not only that it's morally acceptable to kill women and children, the elderly and the disabled, but that the most troubling part of the whole story is the psychological trauma inflicted on the Israelite soldiers who were ordered to kill them. Craig not only isn't embarrassed by this monstrous position; he digs in and defends it:
If you believe in the salvation, as I do, of children, who die, what that meant is that the death of these children meant their salvation. People look at this [genocide] and think life ends at the grave but in fact this was the salvation of these children, who were far better dead... than being raised in this Canaanite culture."
Let me emphasize this: According to leading Christian apologist William Lane Craig, children are "far better dead" than they would be if they were raised in a culture that doesn't believe the same things as William Lane Craig.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 8, 2011 at 12:00 pm
We know what those snake-oil salesmen do to conform to their twisted reality. what is sad is that there is sheep following them.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 11:05 am
Unsurprising. Show me a believer that doesn't have this built in to their faith (even if they refuse to consider or address it due to the notion being completely monstrous).
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2011 at 11:14 am by Captain Scarlet.)
Shit I didn't know he said that. Then in the next breath he says that without god there would be no objective morality. I know the 2 can be reconciled logically, but can you begin to even utter the 2 perspectives in the same sentence and feel good about yourself?
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 11:30 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2011 at 11:32 am by Rev. Rye.)
JESUS! Even the Christians that bullied me as a kid knew better than to try to defend those parts of the Bible.
I'd like to say something to Mr. Craig, but I'm afraid John Lennon said it better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNjTPZW7G...re=related
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Didn't really know he was like this, although I read it somewhere when Dawkins responded to why he didn't wish to debate him. What does Lane Craig do anyway? I've heard some people say he is a philosopher, but to me he just seems like a Christian apologist who has somehow become famous. And that's it.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 12:28 pm
(November 9, 2011 at 12:25 pm)JollyForr Wrote: Didn't really know he was like this, although I read it somewhere when Dawkins responded to why he didn't wish to debate him. What does Lane Craig do anyway?
He writes books and debates people, that is basically his job.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Quote:According to leading Christian apologist William Lane Craig, children are "far better dead" than they would be if they were raised in a culture that doesn't believe the same things as William Lane Craig.
A theory best explained when a clusterbomb gets dropped on a refugee camp.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Craig is a professional debater who only debates his choice subjects. He's very good on his subjects, but I'm awesome at debating sexual innuendo, so fucking what. He wants to debate Dawkins on philosophy. Hmmmm, professional philosopher/debater vs top evolutionary biologist, debating philosophy, I wonder who would win..... It's obvious that he's more likely to sell out vs a big name like Dawkins.
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RE: Craig and Genocide
November 9, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Yep, this is why Dawkins won't have anything to do with him.
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